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Old 08-22-2009, 10:26 PM #22
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You know that there is a difference between dictionary definitions and legal definitions, right? I don't see the government requiring the registration of all water, marshmallows, potatoes, rubber bands, or any of the other random pieces of junk that can fit the dictionary definition of "ammo" for something that is the dictionary definition of a "gun".
Thats my point in all honesty.

No gun of any kind is going to be regulated more than it is now. Take guns off the street and crime rate goes up.

Plus you have the NRA so yeah.. not going to happen.
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:27 PM #23
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That doesn't mean it's going to pass. You have no idea how many bills are voted on and fail if you're worried about this.
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:33 PM #25
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no dude I'm dead serious. The outside world considers paintball markers to be GUNS!!!
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:37 PM #26
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Haha! He changed it.
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:40 PM #27
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Thank you for pointing that out. And I bet 75%-90% of post on PBNation call paintball markers, GUNS. If we expect the outside world not to consider markers, guns, then we need to stop calling them guns.
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:46 PM #28
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Sure, that's fair. It's something most of the serious paintball scene has been trying to do for a while. Unfortunately every time you see paintball on tv the announcers feel the need to call markers guns so it's not too confusing for people who are newer to watching the sport. For example, talking about how many "guns the team has up" off the break, or how this player or that player is keeping their gun on their opponent while they look cross-field. It's really counterproductive to the issue.
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Thank you for pointing that out. And I bet 75%-90% of post on PBNation call paintball markers, GUNS. If we expect the outside world not to consider markers, guns, then we need to stop calling them guns.
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dude you have a house, get second and third degree burns, loose EVERYTHING you own, and then you can pick on me for look ing for a new marker
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no i said check the sig. u see? i didnt see your sig before but if it said "gun" dont change it because someone pointed it out.

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Are you telling him NOT to change it? I can't tell because of your spelling, but if you are, why? Why would you care if he uses the industry-accepted term, marker, instead of the ignorant sounding one, gun? Anyone with an IQ over 60 on PbNation is going to know exactly what he's talking about, just as it would be if he called it a gun. The only difference is that you can tell he means a paintball marker, as opposed to, "maybe he wants a paintball gun or a real gun, I can't tell".
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Are you telling him NOT to change it? I can't tell because of your spelling, but if you are, why? Why would you care if he uses the industry-accepted term, marker, instead of the ignorant sounding one, gun? Anyone with an IQ over 60 on PbNation is going to know exactly what he's talking about, just as it would be if he called it a gun. The only difference is that you can tell he means a paintball marker, as opposed to, "maybe he wants a paintball gun or a real gun, I can't tell".
if his sig said gun then why change it? people know what he means. the real term is marker yes, but people use gun all the time. so there for people should know gun on pbn means a paintball marker
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if his sig said gun then why change it? people know what he means. the real term is marker yes, but people use gun all the time. so there for people should know gun on pbn means a paintball marker
Dude have you even read this forum? Cause if you had you would understand why?
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Dude have you even read this forum? Cause if you had you would understand why?
yes. and i didnt know pbn was so technical.
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Some of the people on here are rational people, and if we're talking about firearms and they see "gun", they might not know exactly what kind he's talking about.
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So any real ideas to help me?
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Wait, if Obama tried to pull this wouldn't that possibly send us in to a second civil war. The NRA is like 3/4 of our country and if Obama were to **** on the 2nd ammendment (Which is what he would be doing in this case)... I just don't see it ending well therefor I doubt it'll happen.
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Firstly has anyone heard of this new bill that NObama is trying to pass that would require every firearm within the USA to be registered? I heard this from a friend of mine and he also said that people would be required to turn in all of their ammunition and be issued new ammo(which they would probably limit). But my real question is how will this affect paintball? Will we have to register our paintball "guns"? Will they do they do the same thing with paintballs that they will do with ammo? Please help me find some answers and spread the news.
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first this whole "cash for clunkers" thing is sending us into bankrupcy. Second, I'm not complaining I just want some legit answers instead of people complaining about this post
Toyota lost 4.4 billion last year and didn't go bankrupt. The CARS program will cost 3 billion at the most.

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The bill is in committee and not up for a senate vote. It is highly unlikely to make it out of committee since it has zero co-sponsors.

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So any real ideas to help me?
You linked a very good article on the bill. If you would take the time to read it, it will answer your questions. It appears you have internet access, too bad you can't figure out how to use it to research answers to your questions.
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Subject: Guns listed on your next tax return




Subject: Guns listed on your next tax return




As if we didn’t have enough to get upset about!


Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It may require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun.
| This bill was introduced on Feb.. 24. This bill will become public knowledge 30 days after it is voted into law. This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee can pass this without the Senate voting on it at all.
| The full text of the proposed amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage,http://www.senate.gov/ You can find the bill by doing a search by the bill number, SB-2099.
| You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do. Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.|
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| <http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text|
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| Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully comply.
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| It has started.
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| Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.|
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| Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because the government is trying to fly it under the radar.
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| To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.
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| Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:
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| -It is registered -You are fingerprinted -You supply a current Driver's License -You supply yourSocial Security # -You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing -Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail. -There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. -They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.
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| If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family pass this along.|
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| This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.
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| This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.
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| Please.. copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA , whether you support the Right to Bear Arms or are for gun control. We all should have the right to choose.



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Wait, if Obama tried to pull this wouldn't that possibly send us in to a second civil war. The NRA is like 3/4 of our country and if Obama were to **** on the 2nd ammendment (Which is what he would be doing in this case)... I just don't see it ending well therefor I doubt it'll happen.
The NRA is 3/4 of which country? Not my country... Maybe it has members in 3/4 of the counties in America or something like that, but I know for a fact that NRA membership is not 3/4 of the population of the United States. Unless you count all the fake names the hyper-paranoid republicans go by to make sure "them gover'ment ain't get inta mah gun bizness" like that guy from King of the Hill, or something like that.
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It's a paintball gun also. It fits the definition of a gun. Water guns are harmless and nobody calls them "water squirters"
LOL
but seriously call it a marker for "political correctness" and stuff
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