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Old 02-12-2016, 08:38 PM #1
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Karni pump project, worth it?

Hi nation, I've been thinking lately how I'd love to build a pump. Which got me thinking about the karni pump dream. Just a couple questions from people who have taken this challenge on.

Is it worth the cost? I know finding the body with internals is a big part and can be hard to do. Also with the CDN dollar hurting, buying from anything american can cost that much extra.

If I decide to, are there any guides/threads to doing this? I have searched around here and online and alot of what I see are very outdated posts.

Thanks for taking a read on this, any comments would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 02-13-2016, 08:15 AM #2
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if you love tinkering and building, yeah its worth it. as far as posts being outdated... not much in the cocker world has changed in 10 years... some things to look for are the new alien morph valve (wont fit a karni unless you bore out the bottom tube) and the karni slice pump kits (which are gorgeous)
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:19 AM #3
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If it's worth putting together from a financial standpoint, the answer is almost always no. It's usually cheaper to buy one that's already put together.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:29 AM #4
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No, people like karni because of milling. By the time you spend all that money it's still as smooth as a CCM
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:42 AM #5
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I've gone down this road and I can safely say that I put enough money into it that I could have just gotten a CCM exactly the way I like it and had cash left over for a bag of paint. That being said, I do like that it has all my favorite parts, the milling is really cool, and I like the acid wash anno I got.

Pros: It will look really cool, you can pick the parts you like, it is fun to tinker with.

Cons: it is not the most financially sound way to get a quality pump


Side note: if you find a karni body without internals for cheap, you can half block the body and use CCM internals.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:44 AM #6
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Or wait for Niche to put out the revised Karni later this year and get the new hotness karni style
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Old 02-13-2016, 03:35 PM #7
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Thanks for the quick insight! I was looking as adding a pump cocker of sorts to my line up, the KP3 also caught my eye
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Old 02-18-2016, 11:58 PM #8
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Actually putting the finishing touches on my karni right now. Just got the slice pump kit for it and highly recommend it to anyone else doing this. Dare I say just as good as any CCM kit I've used with the added customization benefit. As far as the cost:
Body: $180 off eBay no internals
New lower tube parts: $90
Pump kit: $160
Bolt: $30
That's just the karni specific parts. You're still looking at a barrel, trigger frame, on/off, etc. so adding it up, you can definitely make a better financial decision and still have a great marker. I like the way it was put a few posts up in that you can buy a totally custom brand new CCM and still afford paint. That being said, I'm very pleased with having a sought after and sexy looking karni pump. Can't put a price on a dream.
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Old 02-19-2016, 12:57 AM #9
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Or wait for Niche to put out the revised Karni later this year and get the new hotness karni style
Is that still happening?
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Old 02-19-2016, 04:31 AM #10
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Is that still happening?
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Old 03-01-2016, 11:52 AM #11
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been scanning the net for karnivor bodies, doesn't seem to be any around guess I'll be waiting to start this project
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Old 03-09-2016, 08:01 PM #12
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Get yourself in the Karnivor owners group on Facebook. I see them pop up from time to time with relative consistency. A guy by the name of Anthony Rubio has been clutch with my build, though I didn't buy the body from him, he has parts all the time.
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Old 09-18-2016, 02:34 PM #13
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Blind P-Karnivor

Buying a new or mint condition pump is cheaper and easier. I took a turn into a journey to build a P-Karnivor. It turned into an expensive $$$ project than planned, but I do not regret it. Feels and shoots awesome !!
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Old 09-18-2016, 04:17 PM #14
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not many none drilled karnis out there. very nice build
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Old 09-18-2016, 05:46 PM #15
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Not drilled and not milled for the eye ribbon. That is so nice. I wish they would have left more bodies like that.
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Old 09-18-2016, 05:53 PM #16
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No ball detent drill, it's completely blind Ha !!

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Old 09-18-2016, 10:41 PM #17
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Lol. I didn't even notice that! That's awesome! Talk about rare! Haha
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