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Old 08-11-2009, 11:56 PM #43
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This is just a way for pbn to make more money. This should be offered for free and only if you have a certain amount of feedback. The "EZ bump" should be standard with all users.
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Old 08-12-2009, 12:00 AM #44
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This is just a way for pbn to make more money. This should be offered for free and only if you have a certain amount of feedback. The "EZ bump" should be standard with all users.
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Old 08-12-2009, 12:01 AM #45
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:01 AM #46
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:06 AM #47
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:24 AM #48
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i think they should make that bumping thing availible for every1 so tey dont have to pay to get it it would b a great time saver or at least us asm's
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:44 AM #49
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I agree with the posters above...this should be EARNED not bought. This really doesn't make me trust one user over another because they did this. Instead of doing this why not create a program where a new user can APPLY for a trust badge and after review may receive it based on amount of feedback not only from Pbnation but from Ebay and others. Say for instance, you can apply for a trust badge if any of the following apply:
  • 25+ positive feedback Pbnation with no negatives, must be a supporting member of PbNation (this may not require review, could be an automatic process)
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  • 10+ positive feedback PbNation with no negatives, plus 50+ positive on Ebay with no negatives and must be a support member of PbNation (would require review)

Of course this type of system will take longer to approve / disapprove though but it may attract more and more users to pay for PbNation. You could also create a Trusted Buyer / Seller forum where only trusted buyers and sellers can post.

Just a suggestion.

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Old 08-12-2009, 09:10 AM #50
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Well this is cool and stupid. The BST trust feature doesn't exist anymore so know my 6 free BST Trusts I have are worthless. Can I trade them in for the BST Badge?
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:26 AM #51
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Well this is cool and stupid. The BST trust feature doesn't exist anymore so know my 6 free BST Trusts I have are worthless. Can I trade them in for the BST Badge?
Exactly, WTF am I supposed to do with all these B/S/T Trusts now? So now after I bought them, you take them away and now I must buy them back?
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:43 AM #52
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This is just a way for pbn to make more money. This should be offered for free and only if you have a certain amount of feedback. The "EZ bump" should be standard with all users.
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I'm all about supporting the site but this is too much. I already pay $30 a year and you want me to pay $30 more for stuff that costs you zilch and you take away our original bst trusts. This thread about belongs in the Theft Forum.
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:10 PM #53
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completely agree with people pointing out the issues with this. bst trust should not be BOUGHT it should be EARNED. only in some cases you can buy trust...like politics. but thats a whole other issue. most people need to earn trust and that is exactly what should go on here. ive been on this site for just under 7 years now, have done countless deals, and was an original supporting member. i think that would count me as being pretty trustworthy on the site. so why should i not get one of these badges? just because i dont want to pay $30 a year for it? it seems im more qualified to have this badge then most people that will BUY this badge. sure its a great way to make money, but to anyone who knows anything about this site, they will quickly find out that bst trust does not mean **** seeing as its pretty damn easy to put some money in your paypal account and get a new shiny badge.

this needs to reworked...and i want my badge
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:32 PM #54
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completely agree with people pointing out the issues with this. bst trust should not be BOUGHT it should be EARNED. only in some cases you can buy trust...like politics. but thats a whole other issue. most people need to earn trust and that is exactly what should go on here. ive been on this site for just under 7 years now, have done countless deals, and was an original supporting member. i think that would count me as being pretty trustworthy on the site. so why should i not get one of these badges? just because i dont want to pay $30 a year for it? it seems im more qualified to have this badge then most people that will BUY this badge. sure its a great way to make money, but to anyone who knows anything about this site, they will quickly find out that bst trust does not mean **** seeing as its pretty damn easy to put some money in your paypal account and get a new shiny badge.

this needs to reworked...and i want my badge
agreed, and I trust you...maybe I should make a "1stGenRex trusts this guy" badge
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:43 PM #55
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hahaa that would work for me. make one up and ill make sure to put it on!
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Old 08-12-2009, 02:03 PM #56
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Is it me or did the price for it go down?
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Old 08-12-2009, 02:10 PM #57
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Is it me or did the price for it go down?
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Old 08-12-2009, 02:10 PM #58
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Even the idea of buying your own trust is a little dumb.. the features you get with it are veryyy good.
the easy bump thing is a life saver to me.
As slow as my phone is i dont have to go thread to thread now, all i have to do is go to my subscribed threads.

But, i say people should earn it (maybe more then 40+ with no negatives) and then they get a PM asking if they would like to buy the badge for 7-8 bucks whatever it is..

But nonetheless i love the idea of this.
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Old 08-12-2009, 02:11 PM #59
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I think it should be free, and you have to earn it. Such as having at least 150 feed back, PayPal verified, less than maybe 2 negatives if any negatives at all, etc.
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Old 08-12-2009, 02:12 PM #60
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It did not. It's always been $9.49 for non ASM members, and $7.49 for ASM members.
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Old 08-12-2009, 02:15 PM #61
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Kyle, please inform me. Why do we lose out on our B/S/T Trusts? You guys are basically taking them away, then making us "buy" them back.
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What is there to stop scammers from paying $10 to receive a $1000 marker?
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I agree with the posters above...this should be EARNED not bought.

Of course this type of system will take longer to approve / disapprove though but it may attract more and more users to pay for PbNation. You could also create a Trusted Buyer / Seller forum where only trusted buyers and sellers can post.
Some really good ideas as well as some we can't use. I don't see us ever interfacing with eBay feedback or coming up with a a system where we'd have to approve, disprove individually by hand. We just don't have the resources to do that.

However, I really do like the idea of earned Trust. We need to put some work into that.

We also never seriously considered making a forum for only Trusted members. Do you think people would use it? Were you thinking regular users wouldn't be able to view it? Or only Trusted members could start threads?


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We've been working on discontinuing the old style of BST Trust for while now. That's why they haven't been advertised as part of the ASM program for quite some time and not one person even noticed. We kept issuing them with ASM in the hopes people would use them, but they just didn't. We love the idea of helping people to trust each other online, but our users simply never embraced it. It was amazing how many ASM users simply never used it. That's exactly why we felt we had to come up with a new program. We did make sure to build in a ASM discount on the new Trust program.

We tried to make this new program more effective and more noticeable in the hopes it would not only get used, but it would also help people sell their gear. The combination of the badge, header and thread icon really makes threads by trusted users stand out. Plus, this way people can have as many new threads as they need that are all trusted.
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