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Old 07-24-2009, 04:18 AM #1
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Is Christianity considered monothestic?

And are Buddhists considered atheists?
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Old 07-24-2009, 05:47 AM #2
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Yes, no.
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Old 07-24-2009, 06:28 AM #3
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Yes, no.
agreed. OP's questions answered.
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The first one, yes.

Secondly, core Buddhism is an atheistic religion. They do not believe that a god created the world and the people in it, nor do they worship anyone as so. It is a religion that teaches self-liberation, including self-reliance, discipline, and individual striving towards being a better person. It is truly a religion of "do unto others what you want others to do unto you". In fact, it's probably the most peaceful, well-rounded religion out there, and it doesn't even have a god. Imagine that?

Of course, there are many sects of Buddhism, and many of them do have some kind of god-like figure or supernatural being, but at its core, Buddhism is not a theistic religion and simply teaches its followers to just be good people without hanging heaven, hell, and a vengeful god over their heads.

Being atheist myself, I'd say that if I had to choose a religion to follow, it would definitely be Buddhism.
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a monotheistic religion with two gods and a demigod? i don't think so.
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a monotheistic religion with two gods and a demigod? i don't think so.
The father, son, and holy ghost are considered to be the same thing in different forms. Although I may be simplifying it a bit.
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The father, son, and holy ghost are considered to be the same thing in different forms. Although I may be simplifying it a bit.
Which has always seemed to me to be more similar to the Hindu idea of Brahman than monotheism.
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The father, son, and holy ghost are considered to be the same thing in different forms. Although I may be simplifying it a bit.
The Holy Trinity.




There were sects of Christianity that denied the Holy Trinity though and considered those who worshiped the Holy Trinity to be pagans.
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a monotheistic religion with two gods and a demigod? i don't think so.
I always considered it the Deity, the Deity's Avatar, and the Deity's Spiritual Influence, to use a non-Christian vernacular.
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Old 07-27-2009, 10:03 AM #11
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So Jesus was 100% man and 100% G-d?
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So Jesus was 100% man and 100% G-d?
yes. hypostatic union, and in reference to communication idiomatum as well in reference to theological ramifications. (one point I would like to make is that this is present tense, not a "was", but "IS" - the physical bodily resurrection of the Christ is essential to Christian beliefs.
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Which has always seemed to me to be more similar to the Hindu idea of Brahman than monotheism.
There's actually people who theorize that Jesus was really a proponent of some kind of fusion of eastern philosophies like hinduism and taoism and the Paulites perverted it for their own purposes.

However, I find the idea that someone who intially resided in Judea to have had enough contact with those philosophies to advocate them fairly suspect and I'm looking into the possibilities/probabilities now.

Not to mention the strong oral tradition in the region would have made the likelihood of those perversions making into the Bible pretty nonexistent. Our literary culture has a real bias against orality centered cultures when it comes to transmission of factual information that really isn't based on a real criticism or evidence. But that's a whole 'nother topic.
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yes. hypostatic union, and in reference to communication idiomatum as well in reference to theological ramifications. (one point I would like to make is that this is present tense, not a "was", but "IS" - the physical bodily resurrection of the Christ is essential to Christian beliefs.
So Jesus's human side (i guess) is still around too?
This is just a question, I'm not trying to argue.

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There's actually people who theorize that Jesus was really a proponent of some kind of fusion of eastern philosophies like hinduism and taoism and the Paulites perverted it for their own purposes.

However, I find the idea that someone who intially resided in Judea to have had enough contact with those philosophies to advocate them fairly suspect and I'm looking into the possibilities/probabilities now.

Not to mention the strong oral tradition in the region would have made the likelihood of those perversions making into the Bible pretty nonexistent. Our literary culture has a real bias against orality centered cultures when it comes to transmission of factual information that really isn't based on a real criticism or evidence. But that's a whole 'nother topic.
That's VERY interesting information, I'll hafta look more into that.
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Our literary culture has a real bias against orality centered cultures when it comes to transmission of factual information that really isn't based on a real criticism or evidence. But that's a whole 'nother topic.
Historians would tell you otherwise. Oral tradition can be a great source of knowledge about the past, but it can also be the historian's worst enemy.
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a monotheistic religion with two gods and a demigod? i don't think so.
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Oh and the reason why I made this thread was to get all of your opinions, I know where I stand in the argument.
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Well, Christians saying that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all God but are separate entities? I don't buy it.
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i don't buy it either. they are not separate entities. it's the LDS (whether one considers them Christian or not is really besides the point) that claims them to be separate, but one in "unity and purpose". The RCC and most other Christianities say that the trinity is one God and are all one. one in substance.
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i don't buy it either. they are not separate entities. it's the LDS (whether one considers them Christian or not is really besides the point) that claims them to be separate, but one in "unity and purpose". The RCC and most other Christianities say that the trinity is one God and are all one. one in substance.
I want you to tell me how this:



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ur tiny brian will never comprehend the complexity of the trinity.
Then why don't you explain it to me because apparently your brain is big enough to understand it.

The trinity is not complex; it's just completely illogical.
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