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Old 01-06-2015, 03:36 PM #1
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A1 Framed A4 Fly Built by EastCoastAngel

Figured I would make a shooting video of my A4 Fly with the A1 Frame. This was built & serviced by Brad at East Coast Angel.




Ran a hopper through it and it shot like a dream.
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Old 01-06-2015, 03:43 PM #2
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I love these. The A4 is easily one of the best Angel platforms. They are tanks, and shoot great!

I still have two frames/boards/eyes for when I find my A4 flys.

I keep looking for a great condition blue, and a silver. They are getting harder and harder to find though.
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Old 01-06-2015, 04:28 PM #3
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I found you 2 robert......your just picky.

I am glad you posted this up.....that gun was a sweet project for me .... thanks again
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Old 01-06-2015, 04:48 PM #4
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And Here I was wondering what I'd do with this extra A1 frame I had laying around while looking for a frame for a Gat body I had. Cheers to APS keeping the frame screw spacing consistent across so many generations of guns. BTW someone tell the automag owners to stop buying all the G7 generation frames and tell them to start buying up A1 frames from all these parted A1s out there.
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Old 01-06-2015, 05:01 PM #5
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My next project will be a cobra G7 if I can find one for a good price
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Old 01-06-2015, 08:20 PM #6
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I found you 2 robert......your just picky.

I am glad you posted this up.....that gun was a sweet project for me .... thanks again
I know I'm picky.....I shouldn't have sold the blue/silver though lol. That was a mistake.
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Are the regular A4 Fly eyes the same interface and work with the A1 board? Or did you have to do something different?
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Are the regular A4 Fly eyes the same interface and work with the A1 board? Or did you have to do something different?
A1 has a connector for each side. So you have to get A1 eyes from Pat. I realized on The Gat that the ram pin ends up being behind the frame, so I'll have to figure out a way to hold the retaining pin if that's the path I choose to take.
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made me smile to hear that thing rip, great looking gun.
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I dont knw that A1 eyes would work with the older style eye straps.......before people wanting to do this mod run out and buy them. Maybe the doc would work with people though to find a solution?
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I dont knw that A1 eyes would work with the older style eye straps.......before people wanting to do this mod run out and buy them. Maybe the doc would work with people though to find a solution?
Doc (Pat) does wired A1 eyes which is the only way this works.
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Old 01-07-2015, 03:51 PM #13
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But they are ridiculously long for the application. Unless you are talking about hacking them, which i am not.
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But they are ridiculously long for the application. Unless you are talking about hacking them, which i am not.
Shortening wire and resoldering a couple leads is pretty straight forward. Not the most difficult thing to do on a mod like this.
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Old 01-07-2015, 04:41 PM #15
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Na i understand for sure.
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This Angel does have custom eyes made by Doc. I would hit him up for all of your eye needs.
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Next step for this Angel I will be looking for reliability/consistency mods. Going to try and reduce kick, but also get a decent amount of pods out of one fill.

My goal is to be using it at practice/PSP
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Next step for this Angel I will be looking for reliability/consistency mods. Going to try and reduce kick, but also get a decent amount of pods out of one fill.

My goal is to be using it at practice/PSP
#1 reliability mod is DON'T TOUCH IT. I chose Angel back in the day because there was no reason to add a lot of upgrades. If you want to reduce kick find an delrin or similar hammer. While inertial mass is a contributor to kick moving the center of gravity forward will help a lot. I used to shoot my MT Fly with a 68/45. I recently picked up a Ninja 50/45 and the shorter tank moved the COG forward and now kick is greatly reduced.
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Oh no worries, shot plenty of angels in my day. I always look for things to improve. If it doesnt work to my liking a simply take it out and sell it and put back in stock. I do agree though, angels are workhorses.

But what you said is sort of what I had in mind. I need to source a lightweight hammer.
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Old 01-07-2015, 05:29 PM #20
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Well then. Once our finances are squared away I think I may just do this as my next gun. I loved how my A4 Fly felt and shot.
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Hokay.....Heres the run down

The front of the frame was milled out to fit around the vert asa

The eyes are custom from doc....You will never make a set as fresh as his...ever

The valve body pin was ground flush and beveled so the pin can be removed with a magnetic pick up tool

The trigger was not milled on this particular build,, I modded the vernier wheels instead.

Ive done this a1 frame mod on ir3s , 03-04 speeds, a4,a4 fly and 06 speeds and a g7 fly

These are def as custom as I have ever done and I always feel like I achieved something sweet when done
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