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Old 08-26-2016, 05:38 PM #1
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Low velocity

Having a hard time getting my A1 fly to shoot above 230fps? even with the inline turned all the way up. tried increasing dwell but it didn't help much before it led to some bolt stick.. i'm open to suggestions.
I'd love to get it running 100% this weekend, if not i'll have to use my cyborg or karnivor.
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Old 08-26-2016, 06:37 PM #2
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Do you have pressure gauges? If so, what are your regs set to?

What's your dwell set to?

Good battery?
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Old 08-26-2016, 10:59 PM #3
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Do you have pressure gauges? If so, what are your regs set to?

What's your dwell set to?

Good battery?
no gauges, but i went as high as i could with the inline as i could. Dwell was 6m/s before i started ****ing with it, and it's a brand new duracell quantum (the premium premium one)

*update: i took my gun apart ... I have learned nothing...I had to tinker...
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Old 08-27-2016, 11:17 PM #4
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Your pressures are probably out of balance. The only completely accurate way to set them would be with both of the gauges, but if you can only track down a LPR gauge you should be able to get "close enough". Turn the mini-reg adjustment screw all the way in, then back it all the way out counting the number of turns. Screw it back in halfway (half the number of turns you counted). Now gas up and set your LPR pressure to 57-60 psi. Set your dwell to 6.0 ms. Shoot it over a chrono to see where you're at. You should be in the mid to high 200's and you should be able to get yourself dialed in using the mini-reg adjustment screw from there.

If you don't feel comfortable doing that, or if you can't track down any gauges, you could always send the gun in for service. Brad at East Coast Angel can set it up for you.

One other thing to check would your valve stem. If the cup seal has separated from the metal stem and spins freely, sometimes you will get incomplete firing or incurable low velocity.

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Old 08-29-2016, 06:51 PM #5
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I think I need to turn up my LPR, so I gotta track down some shims. taking the gun pretty much all the way apart gave me a bit of insight into the problem actually.
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Old 08-31-2016, 01:05 AM #6
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Worse case, ANS still has LPR shim packs if you can't find them any where else.
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Old 08-31-2016, 05:47 PM #7
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yeah looks like i'm going to have to go with them.. can't seem to find them anywhere else. and i don't know what industrial equivalent would be. Unless someone on here would know what to look for?

anyone know where i can find a spare apr plug so i can build an apr gauge?
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Old 08-31-2016, 08:29 PM #8
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http://www.pbsports.com/Angel-WDP-Shim-Kit.html

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Old 08-31-2016, 08:31 PM #9
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Easiest way to go the DIY route on an LPR gauge is to use an old volumizer from the LCD-A4 Fly era. All you need to do is drill and tap the volumizer for 1/8" pipe threads and screw a 1/8" gauge in.

I don't know of anywhere off hand to buy shims that thin, but there may be places that make them. In a pinch you could use a nickel as a template and cut your own out of foil.
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Old 08-31-2016, 08:36 PM #10
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http://www.pbsports.com/Exhaust-Valv...Test-Tool.html

If you want to pick up the Valve Pressure tester while your ordering the shims. If I dig around I may have a spare LPR tester as well.
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If you have access to a machine shop, you can also find the thread specs for the LPR gauge (also works for volumizer/end cap threads for LED through G7 Fly) here.

Probably a lot easier and cheaper to just find an old volly though.
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adman, i saw Fubar and Fubar 2, those guys are insane, not very funny, made me hate the prairies, but a great user icon for discussion Join the OT and introduce yourself
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Old 09-02-2016, 12:58 PM #13
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If you have access to a machine shop, you can also find the thread specs for the LPR gauge (also works for volumizer/end cap threads for LED through G7 Fly) here.

Probably a lot easier and cheaper to just find an old volly though.
no access to machine shop i'll look into it parts are hard to come by up here.

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