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Old 12-09-2014, 05:21 PM #1
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ok guys i just bought my very first A1 Fly Joy Division edition. i know absolutely NOTHING about angel just that ive always wanted one since 2002 lol. i watched ******'s vid on them and it was sorta knowledgable. but i hear a lot of bad things about the RAM and the Board. what and where should i get for upgrades. i am completely lost in the this marker.
i have heard to just totally replace the reg with a CP reg.

Oh, and the angel im getting i was told was completely stock. has updates on the board via the internet software upgrades but i dont know what those upgrades are haha.

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Old 12-09-2014, 05:27 PM #2
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Couple things.

1. I'd be very careful about taking advice from that person's videos. Or watching them.
2. As with anything in paintball, take your gun out and run her before worrying too much about upgrades. A lot of the "upgrades" out there don't actually perform as well as the stock parts you're likely to find.
3. If you need parts and such, I'd start with Jay at PBSports.

Enjoy your gun! And show us some pictures of her!
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:53 PM #3
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:54 PM #4
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I've got every A1 platform and I'd only recommend getting a Booster Bolt (1 or 2, doesn't matter). Maybe get the largest barrel back you have freak bored.

You will have a Magno ram in there. The only thing newer is an STR ram and you are 100% fine without it. The bad thing about the rams is they can't be rebuilt from the factory. You can get the modified to be rebuildable, though.

You have a Magno valve. You can get a new valve stem but I personally prefer the one you have. It just seals better out the gate.

You have a fly reg. This is the only thing you might want to consider replacing but only if you want to run an HP tank. Otherwise they are fine. You can mod them to use HP tanks but it's hit or miss.

You have a fly board. You can upgrade to a mojo or virtue board but not need unless you prefer microswitch triggers. The fly board uses optical switch (I prefer this).

You have a fly trigger. You can get a cobra trigger if you want. Bout it.

Like I said, just the bolt. It's a guaranteed performance boost in efficiency. Have fun with it!
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:59 PM #5
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Like Pump and Peril said, not much to upgrade on a FLY.

Booster 1 and 2 bolts are a worthwhile upgrade.

Run the Ram until it gives you issues. If you keep your LPR in line (not above 60spi), then the rams last a long time.

The stock valve stems work fine, but the D-lite is out there if you want it. I'm with Peril and Like the stock metal stems. They allow a lower operating pressure.
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:06 PM #6
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How do I check my LPR pressure
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:26 PM #7
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You'll need the LPR gauge tool. If you plan on hanging on to the gun for a while, grabbing both the valve gauge and LPR gauge tools would be a good idea.
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:18 PM #8
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I would want to play on a psp mode and I heard the ramp on the board is not very good. I emailed virtue but if that doesn't work out where could I find a board for this
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:32 PM #9
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The stock board is bad ***. You just have to set it up right to ramp the way you want. Paint type setting to hard. Ramp. HARD RAMP, HR=hard ramp. Kick in 4 drop out 3. This is all gonna sound like jibberish until you learn the board. Then you have to run paint through it for the eyes to read it for the boards parameters to kick in
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:39 PM #10
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I'm not sure if I can grasp the concept of the metal stem operating at lower pressure though. ...
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Im assuming due to a softer sealing face? Or is it a higher flowing stem?
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:56 PM #12
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Maintenance on Angels is dead simple. A detailed write up can be found in the ultimate sticky. I'd say keep the stock reg unless you are having issues or the internals get trashed. Ensure you use an LP tank when you gas it up. Other than that enjoy and if you have questions feel free to ask.
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Old 12-09-2014, 11:00 PM #13
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All my tanks are set at 550 is that fine
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550 is perfect. I run that on my ninja adjustables with my angels.
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Old 12-09-2014, 11:03 PM #15
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That's fine.

Get a pair of gauges, a Booster 1 or 2 bolt, set the LPR to 55 psi with the HPR set to 180 psi, dwell to 6ms, and go rock. Any velocity changes past that point just need to be made with the HPR. Learn the gun and take care of it and it'll do great things for you for a long time.
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The stock board is bad ***. You just have to set it up right to ramp the way you want. Paint type setting to hard. Ramp. HARD RAMP, HR=hard ramp. Kick in 4 drop out 3. This is all gonna sound like jibberish until you learn the board. Then you have to run paint through it for the eyes to read it for the boards parameters to kick in
Yeah, the ramping is fine. There's no 3-shot, which is probably what he's thinking of. I think Mike specifically discussed it in his review.

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I'm not sure if I can grasp the concept of the metal stem operating at lower pressure though. ...
The metal stem is tapered, which theoretically allows more volume. I'm not sure how much practical difference it really makes. Some people have had to run a slightly higher pressure to get their D-Lite stems to seal though.
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I have a love hate relationship with D-lites. I absolutely HATE them the way that they come. Due to poor glue or old age, I have yet to have one keep it's magnet for very long. BUT, once it falls out I drill a bunch of small holes around the ring of the stem, score the magnet with my dremel, and JB weld the magnet in place. After doing this I love the D-lite and shoot them almost exclusively. A well broken-in D-lite is like a quality pair of leather boots or a stetson, once you get it just right there's nothing else like it.
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Old 12-10-2014, 01:27 PM #18
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ok guys i just bought my very first A1 Fly Joy Division edition. i know absolutely NOTHING about angel just that ive always wanted one since 2002 lol. i watched ******'s vid on them and it was sorta knowledgable. but i hear a lot of bad things about the RAM and the Board. what and where should i get for upgrades. i am completely lost in the this marker.
i have heard to just totally replace the reg with a CP reg.

Oh, and the angel im getting i was told was completely stock. has updates on the board via the internet software upgrades but i dont know what those upgrades are haha.

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To sum up

1. RAM. magno is already fine, but it will blow out. Once it does, have it made rebuildable.
2. Board. fine, or get a virtue redefined a1 board. The stock board itself is a great board however.
3. Reg. Stock minireg is great. Get a CP if you want to run HP. if you have an LP tank, leave it.

tl;dr don't upgrade just because you think you need to.
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