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Old 06-26-2009, 02:58 PM #1
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Putting a little new life to a beat imp

This thing has been sitting unused in my buddies basement for many years now. Told him i was gonna do a little milling on it to freshen it up and get it running again. Was just a stock vision imp with a tapeworm mod and a eclipse magnet trigger to start.



did a little cosmetic milling but got a better idea.
I love the newton valve for angels and smartparts is incorporating it into there new impulse so i decided to make one for the old one as well.

The newton assembly, the high flowing bolt i made, some plugs, and a modded tapeworm.

new assembly has much larger passages through the v/a and the tapeworm



my lpr pressure is 45 psi cause of the valve, with the very light stock hammer. The gun is shooting great super smooth and fast after all those years of being shelved.
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:07 PM #2
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:48 PM #3
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Jesus Christ 45psi.
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Jesus Christ 45psi.
That's exactly what I thought.

I see you also did some hidden milling I was thinking about doing on my practice body. On the top tube, where the tiny black line is at the bottom of the milling, is that where you went a little too deep with the mill?
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Old 06-26-2009, 09:03 PM #5
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yep went a wee bit deep and thin, was kind of eyeing it. was just eyeing it for the most part, it looks pretty cool though because you can see the bolt pin streak back and forth. Doing the hidden milling I also goofed, mapped out a bit and zeroed myself but didnt fear to stick to tightly to my map line. Forgot about the air transfer tube and cut into that on accident, luckily it wasnt a needed portion of the tube so I just made a plug for it.
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Old 06-26-2009, 10:51 PM #6
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Hmm, I think we need much more detail on the new valve setup.
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Old 06-26-2009, 11:08 PM #7
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It is a pressure balancing valve that balances the pressure at both ends of the chamber.

traditionally you have a cupseal being held in place by a spring and air pressure forcing it to stay closed.

One style of balanced valves is drilling a small hole in the cupseal and making a second area behind the transfer portion of the valve that holds air to assist in pushing the valve open, these are called air assist valves, lucky made them for a bunch of different guns as well as many other companies.

The other major design style is what im calling a newton valve setup because that is what evolve called it when they made it for the a4 series of angel. It has been done before and smart parts has done it again for there new imp. This style extends the cupseal to be sealed at the valve and again at the other end of the dump chamber, with the spring outside of the dump chamber. This makes the air pressure act similar on both sides of the cupseal and negates its effect so essentially only the spring is keeping the valve closed. This allows you more control over the system in this configuration, and added benefits are it makes opening the valve very easy so a low moving mass, dwell, and lpr pressure is needed meaning a smoother more efficient gun. Not to mention there is also no free space in front of the valve and the lack of a spring makes the air have less turbulence and a more linear path through the chamber.







same valve setup in an angel. That angel has 20 grams of moving mass with the delrin bolt and hammer smooth as butter, has an lpr pressure of 40 psi, dwell of 9,and gets a case and a pod off a 68/45. It is a proven concept and a great valve design when done correctly.
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Old 06-26-2009, 11:31 PM #8
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I have been trying to come across a newton valve for the timmy. They never released them, but I am sure there are some floating around somewhere.

Great setup you have!
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im not even sure if they went through with making one because the lpr placement made it very problematic on a timmy, I remember when they were trying to get one together for a timmy though. I was kicking ideas around with a guy named pat (i think) that worked for them about adapting a pre-speed angel to take a newton valve, that somehow spawned into them releasing there rebuildable rams for the a4 series.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:21 AM #10
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:45 AM #11
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The pics for those who are unfamiliar with it.



So, are you using the LP core spring for your solenoid?
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Old 06-27-2009, 12:13 PM #12
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that is awsome that they went through with making one.

I am not sure what spring my noid has, most likely not this was snagged off a shelf in my buddies basement not working and missing parts, it did not have an lpr so most likely not the lp core spring
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Old 06-27-2009, 12:27 PM #13
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That's amazing that you can still run at that low of psi without the lp spring and still be consistent.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:52 PM #14
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Anyway, check out YDNA's balanced valve, thats pretty sick too.
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