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Old 08-05-2009, 04:38 PM #190
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There are rumors that the PSP is going to switch to 12bps. That may be why it's at 12.
There are also rumors that Branjelina might be having an alien child. I think in an event geared towards beginners you play by the "beginner rules" that are in place right now, not how they are rumored to be.

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No need to worry, we will not allow team stacking. It will be fair.
It's inherent to the definition of the term random that you have no control over the team selection. I don't know how you can garauntee that there won't be stacked teams. I say let people choose teams so these beginners can learn by 1) getting beat by better teams and 2) by learning to communicate with the people they'll be playing tournaments with.
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There are also rumors that Branjelina might be having an alien child. I think in an event geared towards beginners you play by the "beginner rules" that are in place right now, not how they are rumored to be.



It's inherent to the definition of the term random that you have no control over the team selection. I don't know how you can garauntee that there won't be stacked teams. I say let people choose teams so these beginners can learn by 1) getting beat by better teams and 2) by learning to communicate with the people they'll be playing tournaments with.
No stacking, meaning two people with ego's will not be playing with two people with spyders. The teams are random to a point, an A list with be pared with a B list. This is a Friday night series designed for everyone.
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It's inherent to the definition of the term random that you have no control over the team selection. I don't know how you can garauntee that there won't be stacked teams. I say let people choose teams so these beginners can learn by 1) getting beat by better teams and 2) by learning to communicate with the people they'll be playing tournaments with.
This is for fun on a Friday night, cheap entry and cheap paint. You can show up by yourself to play and have fun. This is also a chance for new players to get involved in tournaments when they may not have other players to form a team with.

They haven't even started the series yet. Maybe random was the wrong wording for it. But I'm sure that they have already thought about how to keep it competitive and fun for everyone.

As for 12 bps, this is something that I'm sure that they have thought long and hard about. Once again, making it fun and competitive for everyone.
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No stacking, meaning two people with ego's will not be playing with two people with spyders. The teams are random to a point, an A list with be pared with a B list. This is a Friday night series designed for everyone.
So if I play with a Spyder I can play with someone that shoots an EGO?
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As for 12 bps, this is something that I'm sure that they have thought long and hard about. Once again, making it fun and competitive for everyone.
What if my Spyder does not shoot that fast?
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So if I play with a Spyder I can play with someone that shoots an EGO?
Correct, the teams will be balanced the best they can. As I said an A list, and a B list.
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Correct, the teams will be balanced the best they can.
Just an idea to try and help out.

You might want to look at doing a hat with names that play Regional and National events and another hat with players that do not have any event exp or just small local.

As if you take me with a spyder and logan with a geo it would still not be very fair.

Just trying to help out as we have doen this before and these are some of the things that came up.
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No stacking, meaning two people with ego's will not be playing with two people with spyders.
It's naive to think that better guns make better players.

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As for 12 bps, this is something that I'm sure that they have thought long and hard about.
Can the owner please verify this claim? It seems like grumpy.old.man is making these decisions whom, I believe, is just the captian of Extortion
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Just an idea to try and help out.

You might want to look at doing a hat with names that play Regional and National events and another hat with players that do not have any event exp or just small local.

As if you take me with a spyder and logan with a geo it would still not be very fair.

Just trying to help out as we have doen this before and these are some of the things that came up.
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Can the owner please verify this claim? It seems like grumpy.old.man is making these decisions whom, I believe, is just the captian of Extortion
I never said the gun makes the player, it is however naive to think it doesn't help. If an 8 year old shows up with an Ego, that doesn't mean his name is dropped in the A list.

For now the bps is set to 12, it's what everyone seems to enjoy shooting at the field. I may drop the rate to 10, I'm still going over a few things atm. This information was released last night at 9:58, things are subject to change.
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I may drop the rate to 10, I'm still going over a few things atm. This information was released last night at 9:58, things are subject to change.
We will be doing alot of 10 bps events for beginners or fun type events as the players with non electro markers still can some what keep up with the 10bps.
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My vote would be for 10 so I dont have to change my Rof cap to 12 every friday, then 10 on sunday.
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I never said the gun makes the player, it is however naive to think it doesn't help.
Fair enough, but when you watch Total Grief stomp all the Ego/DM shooting teams in a 7-man tournament you might change your opinion.

All I'm trying to say here is that I think you'd be better off leaving the team rosters to the players and/or dividing them completely into two categories as GP and Nanner have suggested. Introducing such a subjective term as "good players" and then deciding teams based on that will only leave room for dissent; especially when prizes are involved.
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Fair enough, but when you watch Total Grief stomp all the Ego/DM shooting teams in a 7-man tournament you might change your opinion.
easy.... this day in age it is too hard to do str8 semi, at least ramp keeps it fairly even gun wise......... but the real ? is..... who will be reffing the event and what points do they get if they do ref it. and will it b the same people reffing each week.
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easy.... this day in age it is too hard to do str8 semi, at least ramp keeps it fairly even gun wise......... but the real ? is..... who will be reffing the event and what points do they get if they do ref it. and will it b the same people reffing each week.
I would never allow any of my staff to play the same event they ref. I posted that staff is not allowed to play in this event.

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Fair enough, but when you watch Total Grief stomp all the Ego/DM shooting teams in a 7-man tournament you might change your opinion.
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This is not a 7 man, and Total Grief is not playing. This is an event for local people who would like to play paintball Friday night. Four event series, changing teams, points awarded for just showing up, low cost, and prizes.
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i wasn't questioning your "moralities" on letting your peeps play the event, merely asking who was reffing it. i thought maybe since justin started the thread extortion was reffing. so is it employees or an actual tourney team reffin?
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So if I play with a Spyder I can play with someone that shoots an EGO?
You can play with me Greg!! Wouldn't that be a sight.
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that would b 2 BIG guys out there living behind thier guns in the middle of nowhere lol
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i wasn't questioning your "moralities" on letting your peeps play the event, merely asking who was reffing it. i thought maybe since justin started the thread extortion was reffing. so is it employees or an actual tourney team reffin?
Roy. My kids will be reffing. They will NOT be playing. The only way one of them hits the field is if there is an odd number of players. You guys all know me well, and I will do everything possible to keep teams even and make it fun.

As far as experience, we have already discussed how the teams will and will not be put together. 'Random' was my word. I honestly hadn't thought of the two hat idea, but I like it. I am just afraid one hat will have a lot more in it than the other. In that case, I will try to make the teams as even as possible. We all know it wouldn't be fair to let Logan and Tyler be on a team together. The Tippman kids would bonus-ball them all night!!lol

Seriously though, I will see to it that they are fair.

dec7td, you seem to have an issue with the rof cap. 12 is what the field decided to do from the time they opened. I never thought twice about putting 12 as the cap for this series. If the majority would like 10, then I have no problem with that. Just so you know, JT (280paintball) is the owner. I, Justin, (grumpy.old.man) am the director for the tourneys. Either one of us can answer any questions you have.

Keep the ideas coming. The purpose of this is to make it FUN for all. We welcome all input.
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that would b 2 BIG guys out there living behind thier guns in the middle of nowhere lol
And shooting you coming down the middle!!!lol
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