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Old 02-08-2015, 07:06 PM #1
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Shocker Pie frames (at last!)

Hello Shocker people! I know you guys love my updates so some of you will be very happy with this one!!

New frames on the horizon.



These frames are a major departure from the frames made by Smart Parts. The design is drastically altered, but the frames still use all stock/OEM Shocker parts like triggers, grips, and lower boards. The frames are based on the Nummech VL design but with some special enhancements specifically for Shocker/Nerve parts.

There are some compatibility issues with older Shocker SFT parts. I'm working on a list to show all the items that can be used. Hold tight!

In terms of the overall shape, Dark Shocker SFT frames are probably the closest OEM frame to these new ones. They have an ergonomic shape on the rear spine, but not as pronounced as a Tonton SFT frame. However, my Pie frames have a MUCH thinner distance around the thumb-webbing area. This is where the design changes really come into play.

I realize it's a little "late in the game" for releasing a new aftermarket upgrade, but I've wanted to see this project finished ever since I first created it. These frames were one of the first products I designed during the formation of the company which would become Nummech Products in 2009. But the frames never went into production because the original design was too costly to fabricate.
Skipping ahead to present day, I've been steadily working on adjusting the design to the point where the frames are now a viable item and everyone can enjoy them!!

So the bottomline is these frames will make a nice addition to any project marker, or be useful if you're looking for an upgrade to revitalize a Shocker/Nerve you already have. The frame has some future-proofing aspects that make life easy.

They're not quite done yet, I'm still working on the final details. But they will be available in a few weeks!
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Old 02-08-2015, 07:27 PM #2
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nice... do you have any sft eye covers?
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Old 02-08-2015, 07:38 PM #3
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I do indeed they're black anodized. I also have raw silver ones.

Another picture of the raw frame:

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Old 02-08-2015, 08:03 PM #4
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Very nice work.

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Old 02-08-2015, 08:51 PM #5
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Old 02-08-2015, 09:38 PM #6
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Old 02-09-2015, 12:10 AM #7
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Will these be compatible with the hybrid va's?
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:34 AM #8
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This looks interesting. May get one of these rather than the clamshell ones.

Amy idea of when they will be available to purchase?
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Old 02-09-2015, 08:23 AM #9
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Old 02-09-2015, 09:30 AM #10
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Vertical adapter compatibility depends on whether it's a SFT body or NXT body. NXT bodies have more space so they seem to work with just about all the VAs out there. (although I haven't tested everything)
With the SFT bodies, some regulators might not fit due to the trigger guard. I'm going to go back and mill the trigger guards a little bit to help with this.
Unfortunately I don't have any Hybrid VAs to test (SFT or NXT version). I'll see about getting some dimensions.

All required screws and pins are included. The frame uses a longer trigger pin so SFT trigger pins won't work correctly. Board pins are the same, powerswitch actuator pins are the same. I chose to use these "old" SFT pins because they're off-the-shelf parts that will be available until the end of time.

Availability is a couple weeks from now (maybe March). As you can see the frames themselves are more or less done, but there's a few tiny details that need to be completed before they'll be ready to go. That stuff always takes a while the first time a batch of products is made.

The only downside here is limited color options. I know I'll have some in black gloss, some black dust, but not sure there will be any other colors right off the bat. Anodizing is expensive for other colors and I don't have a huge amount of frames available. It's risky to make too many of one item for a marker that has a "limited" population.
But I'll also have them available in raw in case you want to get it ano-matched on your own, or whatever you want..
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:48 PM #11
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It's risky to make too many of one item for a marker that has a "limited" population.
You may be surprised...
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Old 02-09-2015, 05:23 PM #13
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well, I should have clarified what I mean by "risky". These frames will be added to the list of items we(Nummech) produce, so they'll be available so long as people want them. However, I only made 30 for this initial batch. I will definitely make more when they run out, but I can't overextend on the number because there's a risk of them sitting on the shelf for literally years.

Really the problem isn't the shocker frame not being popular, the true issue is the time that is consumed by making the shocker part could have been spent making something that gets bought instantly (paintball or otherwise). We have a lot of stuff that sits around for a while, it's the nature of retail, nothing wrong with that...but it has to balance out with things that sell or else the bills don't get paid

In reference to anodizing, the vast majority of stuff we make ends up black anodized. We only do runs in other colors like 1-2 times per year. I would need to anodize about 20 frames in EACH color in order for it to be justifiable cost. It's just too many frames to produce at once.

It's possible that I could throw a frame in with another color when we spring for it, but that's basically random. I don't like to get people's hopes up since there's almost no pattern to it. bah!
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WELL HELL-****ING-O

still kinda buttscratchy about the milling lines on the frame, but it looks ergonomic as hell and the trigger guard looks delish as well as the snatch grip; those are 2 things most frames fail to execute cleanly.

Is there a way to make a run where the top of the snatch runs flush with the bottom/back of the bodies? Maybe in future frames?
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these look great, im in for one
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Glad you bros are feeling positive I got some work done today which brings the frames closer to being done. Specifically I fixed the trigger guard to make it fit vertical regulators better, and started on the internal trigger stops.

Benjo all the stuff you mentioned is just cosmetics to make the frame look different and more noticeable. You were right that the frame is a little taller than the stock frames. I put the ball-rounded grooves there to break up the monotony a little bit.

I have an ulterior motive with the snatchgrip. It was laid out that way first to make the gun look different, but also to make the frame match a Slug-based Shocker body better. They don't use solenoid inserts so the area around the body bore is empty. Which reminds me, I need to update the Slug body thread..

In answer to your original question yes all that stuff is cosmetics that can be omitted if/when more frames are made. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

I can't wait to see the frames when they come back from anodizing. Black covers up a lot of details.
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