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Old 05-01-2017, 08:35 PM #1
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VIS Pro Tip - Quiet things down

I took a chance before a tournament this weekend. Wanted to shoot my VIS, but the engine noise (clank clank) was one thing that I have not liked since the Proficiency engine. Took me this long to try and add a bumper to the engine. Total DUH moment. This smoothed out the gun 100%. I have not shot my VCOM engine yet, but after shooting the VIS with this bumper, I am selling the vcom. Nicest marker feel I have felt. Gun was real consistent over the chrono as well. Best part is, the mod is cheap and no parts have to be actually modified. This should work for the supercharger engine as well.

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Place an 011 oring in the ram housing behind the ram and put the cap back on. Thats IT. You may be able to shove an oring in from the front, I just happend to put it in from the rear.

I know the VCOM engine is pictured, I did not feel like taking my VIS apart.

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Old 05-01-2017, 09:01 PM #2
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Hmm, I'll have to try it out.
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Old 05-01-2017, 10:27 PM #3
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Interesting ... I'll give it a shot the next time a VIS is in rotation.
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Old 05-02-2017, 02:46 PM #4
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I can't say I notice any difference at all while dry firing.
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Old 05-02-2017, 02:54 PM #5
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Will this have an impact, Maybe.

Will it be VCOM smooth, I have my doubts.
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Old 05-02-2017, 05:19 PM #6
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My VIS engines have never made this noise that you're talking about.
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Old 05-02-2017, 09:05 PM #7
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Hate to say it but he's right. It smoothes it out a touch. Tried it back to back 5 times with no bumper and it seems to make it a touch quieter too.

Edit: I went and screwed around shot the vcom and vis side by side (since I have a ripper vis and a vcom). The vcom (freshly rebuilt) is still smoother and quieter. But doing the o ring thing to the vis really brings the gap between them closer.
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Old 05-02-2017, 09:34 PM #8
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If your VIS is clanking or quacking lower the dwell. Will have to try this oring mod out.
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:51 AM #9
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No issues with bolt tip being in the breach too much to drop a ball? I only ask cause couple weeks ago bolt tip came loose a bit and I went gun down cause i couldn't feed passed it.
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Old 05-03-2017, 01:16 PM #10
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Nope, bolt tip is only pushed ever so slightly forward. No feed issues.
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Old 05-03-2017, 04:43 PM #11
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Just looked, dwell is @ 8ms. Not sure what it should be. When I got the gun, it had the spool in it. The dwell was @ an absurd setting like 14.5. Wondering why I was going through alot of air...

I was worried about feed issues, had ho problems. I was shooting marbalizer around .684 size. With a spire, everything went great.

Maybe my vis is a noisy one but my proficiency engine was worse and the supercharger was the same as the VIS. The engine noise was distracting and I always felt it didn't have to be like that. Never really understood why the stainless ram returned directly on a metal surface. I understand bumpers wear and is a potential failure point, but geeze it does degrade user experience (for me at least).

I'll keep this up to date with my findings. Didn't mean to oversell it, but to me this really solves the main issue I had with the engine.

PS - If HK starts putting a bumper in the engine, I'm going to need some free swag.
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Old 05-03-2017, 07:43 PM #12
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Most every VIS engine I've dwell tuned, seemed to end up at 11ms.
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Old 05-03-2017, 10:40 PM #13
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I get noticeable clank/quacking noise on my VIS with a dwell above 8ms.
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Old 05-03-2017, 11:41 PM #14
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It'll quack all day under dry fire conditions but with paint the VIS is a different story.
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Old 05-04-2017, 02:58 PM #15
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With paint, mine was clank, clank right in my face.
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:00 AM #16
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Just be careful.. I've done this same thing all the way back to the SC engine but ditched it because the oring can sometimes slip forward and then get folded in half which causes the bolt not to come all the way back. Nbd if it's general walk on play.. bigger deal in tournaments
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Old 05-11-2017, 09:51 PM #17
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Old 05-15-2017, 07:18 PM #18
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This actually works holy ****! Quietest inline poppet ever! And for those who speculate on feeding issues, i did a speed test and no jams or hang ups. The gun had no problem firing 20+ balls.
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