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Old 05-27-2015, 03:12 PM #1
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Arrow Bob long mvp "sledge" hammer - stop the farting!




VINTAGE "SLEDGE" HAMMER GET IT HERE!


The Bob Long "MVP" Marq Victory Pump Paintball Gun just might be the best paintball pump gun ever built. From its superb pump stroke to its perfect pump feel all the way to the American made finish. However, we just couldn't deal with the "farting" sound signature that it made so we set out to find the answer. The reason the MVP farts is due to the hammer bouncing on the valve which draws out the sound signature. Well here is your answer: The Vintage MVP "SLEDGE" Hammer!

"Sledge" Hammer key features:

- Fart Free Operation & intense sound signature change
- Lower operation pressure due to the valve being opened wider and more efficiently
- Much more consistent over the chronograph
- More consistent = Straighter shot
- Straighter shot = More kills


VIDEO HERE---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm1kSBEDps8

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Old 05-27-2015, 04:53 PM #2
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Sounds awesome to me. I have wanted one of these for a long while but couldn't stand the farting sound. Looks like I might have to start hunting for one again.
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Old 05-27-2015, 05:13 PM #3
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That's awesome! Please make a video comparing the "sledge" hammer to the stock gun
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Old 05-27-2015, 08:10 PM #4
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That is my only complaint with the MVP. Looking forward to seeing if this works.
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Old 05-27-2015, 09:07 PM #5
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Dang you, now I got send Tim more money. The only reason I could not hang on to my MVP.

No fart = sold one to me.

Let see that vid!
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Old 05-29-2015, 05:32 AM #6
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I'll order one today. If they don't post a video soon, I will.
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Anyone get one of these yet....?

What is the "intense sound signature" change, sounds like marketing speak for "makes your MVP sound like a insane cannon"
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Anyone get one of these yet....?

What is the "intense sound signature" change, sounds like marketing speak for "makes your MVP sound like a insane cannon"
Hopefully a nice quiet pop. I just saw this and ordered one. I've had good results with the washer mod and tried a ton of springs, orings, hammer weights. But these only worked well with the heavy hammer spring. I'd also like to get better efficiency numbers. I run my mvp on a 17/3000 tank. Currently I'm only getting about 200 shots. My insight gets around 300 from the same tank. I'd like to get an extra game in prior to filling. I'll be sure to post any findings.
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^^^ please do, surprised whoever makes this has no more info or videos out, but hope it does kill the fart and keep the marker reliable.
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They did a video, it's posted on Facebook.

I installed mine today.

I'll do a better write up later but the short of it, yes it fixes the farting. I want to play with spring combinations, swap the bolt to a TJD and reset volocity before judging further.

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With he TJD bolt and sledge hammer installed I'm shooting very hot 340+. Guessing I have the heavy spring installed. Just ordered a parts kit, soon as it gets here I'll switch to the light spring dial in the volocity and shoot a quick video.

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Old 06-09-2015, 04:55 PM #12
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Nice Video ... I'm looking forward to an objective second opinion.
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Nice Video ... I'm looking forward to an objective second opinion.
Borrowed a light MVP spring and dropped the volocity to 280 fps. With the sledge hammer, TJD bolt, and a Stella barrel its just slightly louder than my T2. More importantly, no farting at all.

Now to do some polishing on the slide rails and hopeful I'll get the pump action as light as my T2.

Put simply, I'm very pleased with this purchase.

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Awesome. Looks like I will need to pick one up.
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Old 06-11-2015, 03:50 PM #16
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pvn- Glad you dig it.

We don't make products that don't work. Running low on stock of these and it may be a while before they get on the machines again as we have other projects starting.
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Just got mine in. Priority, 3 days to AK, always nice.







Weight is in grams. The sledge reduces the space for the spring by about 3/4", just a guess. The pump stroke is as heavy with the light spring as the stock hammer with the heavy spring. Feels like it needs to break in a bit.

I think I will polish up the lip to smooth the trigger pull. I look forward to shooting paint tomorrow.
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I got mine a few days ago and just installed it. I'm pretty meh on it, I'll play with it tomorrow and update my post. Yes it fixes the farts and yes you get a fps boost allowing you to drop your pressures. My three complaints so far:

I seem to have better consistency with the stock hammer. Granted I was only shooting a hopper full so I may not have enough data to back this up.

With straight swapping the hammers the trigger pull is noticeably harder. My MVP came with two springs in a bag, one marked with a red dot, and neither spring seemed to affect the trigger pull. The pump stroke is also noticeably harder.

This is a minor complaint, but now if I have the sledge in and I air the MVP up without pumping first it leaks. I get why this happens and it's a really minor deal, just thought I'd mention it.

I plan on playing tomorrow with the sledge in so I'll update after.

edit: I actually have 2 MVPs. I just went out and shot a hopper through both. Same tanks, same barrels, same paint batch. The stock MVP pump and trigger are noticeably lighter. The sledge has a snappier pull but heavier pull and pump. Consistency seems a wash. I honestly can't tell much of a difference in sound signature with them both side by side.
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Played the day with it. Pump stroke had begun to smooth out already. I'm going to take it out and polish it a bit. I think that's all it needs. The guide hole and the rim that engages the sear will be targeted, I'd like to see this turned down on the next run. Sound signature is nice. Had to turn the reg way down even with the light spring. Biggest boost was the consistency. Last 3 of the day over the chronograph were 293, 294, 293. I'm sure it's not always that tight but hey. Gas consumption was down a bit too. I'm guessing 10 - 15% improvement. Will have to get a firm shot count.

Will play with it some more then update. I had reservations at first but I'm definately happy with the product so far. Though I could be a little giddy because I just pulled off a 1 on 4 against 4 PE guns. What a way to close out a day.
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KGB's results scare me quite a bit, before ordering this I have generally waited for more results before trying a product. Hope this doesn't wreck the pump stroke and trigger feel, would mean I am selling it for a loss pretty quick. And it needs polishing and modding out of the box?!?Fingers crossed now, but very concerned.
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In my initial post I commented that the finish was lacking.aube just because it was the first run. I ended up polishing the heck out of it. Body, lip where the sear engages, and more importantly the hole that the guide rides in.

The hole you can see ridges, used a drill with a qtip and some jewelers rue.

Played with it all day yesterday as the day went along it seemed to wear in and get smoother. Didn't break out my CCM until the last game, MVP blew an oring at the Asa. i didn't notice the trigger pull or pump stroke being any lighter or smoother than the MVP.

I would suggest spending 30 minutes polishing it up when you get it but beyond that give it a full day on the field before passing judgement. With as consistent as it was yesterday and as comfortable as the MVP is, my ccm's will likely not see much use.
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