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Old 06-11-2009, 06:01 PM #1
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Smoke Grenades

Hey Guys

We are looking to carry some Smoke Grenades, They need to be Flameless, and Sparkless with a pull pin. Any Suggestions? What Other cool Items do you sell at your field?
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:34 PM #2
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Superior Smoke has a pull pin flame less smoke, Ill see if I can find the link.

EDIT: http://www.superiorsignal.com/superior041.htm

Just get the pull wire version, no flame except for the little bit to ignite it internally, I know this is what skirmish sells.

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Old 06-11-2009, 07:40 PM #3
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:00 AM #4
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They say non-explosive not no flame.

Be carefull and TEST all smokes before you order in bulk. I've seen a lot of supposed flamless smokes catch grass on fire either by heat emmited alone or for the fact they actually produce a flame internally and not always contain it.

Stay away from any military surplus ones. We used a crap load one time at Herbies during a scenario game (huge desert field) and we didn't care about the flame, however the case was marked white smoke. So we pulled out a few and used them and worked fine. ABout the 4th unit we used, tuned out it was mismarked and had CS gas in the smoke. This happens a lot on units where the marking rubs off and surplus vendors just sell them.
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:47 PM #5
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Just ask the city of Pinellas Park about smoke grenades and how many acres they lost in the early 80s

I agree. Test them out first.
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Old 06-13-2009, 02:42 PM #6
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Alright, Thanks Guys for the links and the info!
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:34 PM #7
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Check out marinas for expired coast guard smoke grenades. They're flameless and create really thick orange smoke for a few minutes. I've used Comet smoke signals at my field in cut/dried grass without a problem. Just my 2 cents
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Old 06-13-2009, 11:06 PM #8
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Yeah, the expired orange smokes really work well. Almost too well, they make a LOT of smoke, for a very long time. Though many like to call them the evil orange smoke grenades, since the smoke is kind of noxious. Not something you want to breath in for extended periods of time. I wouldn't allow them to be tossed into small buildings where they might linger too long.

Unfortunately the only smoke grenades I've seen lately that didn't make noxious smoke were anything but flameless. We got them from a fireworks place, and they were labeled "flameless", and I guess that could be true...what came out of the end was more like an acetylene torch for about 20 seconds than a true flame. Accidentally started a small grass fire the first time I tried to fire one of those. After that the rule was we couldn't sell them, but the refs could fire them off for rental groups and the bigger woods games, add a little ambiance.
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:41 AM #9
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Pull String ignition Hand Grenades

We were looking for them also and received an email from http://www.onlinefireworks.com
threw PBNation. We tried a display carton of these and went thought them in 2 weeks. Not a dud in the box. The pull String is the best feature.
First time I call them to order and super people on he phone to deal with.


http://www.onlinefireworks.com/smoke...ullstring.aspx
New - a full sized 5 inch Pull String ignition Hand Grenades for Paintball battles or everyday Fun. No fuse, no flame, simply pull the string. Safe and Sane Registered.
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Old 06-18-2009, 01:33 PM #10
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We were looking for them also and received an email from http://www.onlinefireworks.com
threw PBNation. We tried a display carton of these and went thought them in 2 weeks. Not a dud in the box. The pull String is the best feature.
First time I call them to order and super people on he phone to deal with.


http://www.onlinefireworks.com/smoke...ullstring.aspx
New - a full sized 5 inch Pull String ignition Hand Grenades for Paintball battles or everyday Fun. No fuse, no flame, simply pull the string. Safe and Sane Registered.
They have a discount code for "PBNation" supporters.
I contacted TNT Direct, we received a few samples of those, They still put out a large amount of sparks and when it is windy the smoke goes away pretty fast.
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Old 06-18-2009, 06:04 PM #11
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They say non-explosive not no flame.

Be carefull and TEST all smokes before you order in bulk. I've seen a lot of supposed flamless smokes catch grass on fire either by heat emmited alone or for the fact they actually produce a flame internally and not always contain it.

Stay away from any military surplus ones. We used a crap load one time at Herbies during a scenario game (huge desert field) and we didn't care about the flame, however the case was marked white smoke. So we pulled out a few and used them and worked fine. ABout the 4th unit we used, tuned out it was mismarked and had CS gas in the smoke. This happens a lot on units where the marking rubs off and surplus vendors just sell them.

I be the CS gas led to a fun game.
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Old 06-19-2009, 11:39 AM #12
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I be the CS gas led to a fun game.
Well it was, MXS did the game and their rule was who ever set off the smoke had to stand next to it to make sure no fire etc. Now, good old Uncle Sam, properply conditioned me to CS way back when in boot camp and the **** was horrible.

Feels like ants crawling all over you a biting where ever you are sweating then the eyes, nose and throat isues.

Upside is, we did hold the objective for an hour
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Old 06-19-2009, 12:31 PM #13
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At a big game I've been to when there was a potential fire hazard the players could use any smoke grenades they wanted as long as they were used in designated 'smoke points'... metal buckets or pans set on concrete blocks. Either a brave soul ran/ crawled out to a smoke point or a player notified a ref, set their marker down, run out to pop smoke in a smoke point then go back to a respawn point.

Not as cool as throwing it, but easier than putting out fires
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Old 06-19-2009, 05:32 PM #14
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I use expired USCG 3 minute SOLAS smoke at my field. I work on a tugboat for my money job and get all the smoke and hand flares that are expired. We use it only during big games and only myself or my partner sets it off. We also call the police before we do since we're in the filght path of our local airport and don't want any unneeded 911 calls. It works great but you have to be smart about it. Specifically I use these and love them.
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Old 06-19-2009, 11:58 PM #15
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The ignition point for diesel and oil is higher than dry grass. It still generates heat, it's ignition source is contained in a waterproof container. Ignition in a container = heat. It's not safe for grass, don't breath it, it's still carbon, dye, nitrogen, hydrogen, carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide. It's explosive, it's a pyrotechnic.
Yeah... We all know they get hot and I don't think anyone suggested breathing it.

You want to know what the manufacture says on the MSDS?
"Once ignited units cannot be extinguished until all composition has been consumed. Use large volume of water to control burn." In other words, unless you have about 100 gallons of water, your ****ed.
I don't think anyone would be trying to put out the grenade. The grass will probably go out with a bit of water though.

USCG approved simply means we approve it for public safety, SOLAS simply means it's been approved by their standards for public use.
Great! Approved for Public use. That's what we are talking about.

Being 'smart about it' means knowing what you are using instead of piping crap out of your ***. If you don't believe me, check the MSDS or contact the manufacturer. This is why we make ever attempt to destroy our expired pyro. Unfortunately, surplus stores and marinas keep them on hand for civilians to use for road safety kits and stuff for their vehicles. The idea is "something is better than nothing". This doesn't apply to boats. If it's on a vessel and it's expired(even if it's not required for that type of vessel), your vessel will be escorted to the harbor and won't move until every discrepancy is corrected. And yes we can permanently moor your boat to the harbor and keep you from setting foot on it again until you fix your ****.
Take it easy. Why so hostile? I don't think anybody is playing paintball on a boat.

You guys, please stop being stupid. The dude that mentioned using them in the metal bin, that's cool. I understand using smoke nades are fun and all and I know it sucks but don't interpret things the way you want them to make yourself feel better. Pyro is pyro. Uhh. Yeah. Who's interpreting things to feel better? I appreciate your seriousness about using them safely but I don't see a need for you to be insulting people.
So... Since people will indeed be using smoke grenades for paintball, and since you know so much about them... Why not inform us on how to use them more safely?
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Old 06-20-2009, 06:34 AM #16
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I''m wondering why you such a need to feel superior? I'm fully trained in the use of USCG pyrotechnics and it's my job if I don't. Calling people idiots and, funny enough, lettuceheads won't add any strength to your points. Just like your sig says about respect, thoughful and helpfull advice will be respected and appreciated.
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Spazz, I don't want your respect, and believe me... you DO NOT have mine. In addition, you can stuff your advice since any stupid, thick skulled, idiot already knows whatever fluff you were trying to explain. Thanks for adding your brainy insight to the thread though.

In honor of this thread, I'm popping smoke at the field today!
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I''m wondering why you such a need to feel superior? I'm fully trained in the use of USCG pyrotechnics and it's my job if I don't. Calling people idiots and, funny enough, lettuceheads won't add any strength to your points. Just like your sig says about respect, thoughful and helpfull advice will be respected and appreciated.
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For everyone- SOLAS means Safety of Life at Sea and only speaks to thr requirements of visibiliy and burn time not any type of public exposue. The signal smoke I use is designed to float in water and gets hot.
He wasn't calling someone a lettucehead, although it did sort of sound like it, he was referring to what a user named LettuceHead said about the way they use their smoke nades (in metal buckets on bare dirt)

Not trying to start anything, just pointing that out.
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Make sure you check local and state laws and burn bans. If there's a burn ban in effect or you are required to have a permit, make sure you have one. If you don't they can slam you hard and if you cause a fire that results in death or injury or even personal property you'll be spending some time and be paying a fine for the rest of your life(exaggeration on this one, could happen if u work min wage

You've been informed.
I don't see why anyone would take someone serious with a profile like his... Avatar, motto, sig... You're a 12 year old... Keep google searching "smoke grenade facts" and post them all day, still doesn't change the fact that you're trying to insult people with the setup of middle school humor...
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Sorry to get back on topic, but I second the test before you buy idea.

But I would go further as to try to start a fire. I'm not saying add gasoline to it or go that far, but find a nice dry spot, cover it with some other dry stuff, create a "worse case scenario" and see what happens.
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I'm bored. Let the flaming continue
"fully trained"? We also do demonstrations and instruction for cub scouts. So claiming to be fully trained in something we teach 10 year olds isn't something to brag about.
So, If a cub scout is trained by you they are good to go but somone else who uses smoke grenades in their profession is an idiot. Your training must truly be top notch.

Where did respect come into this? lol, you have no idea what that statement means do you?
It came into this from your signiture. You aparently expect everyone to respect you.

You can get information on SOLAS from their website.
No way! Who would have guessed?

I don't want your respect and I never asked for it, mainly because I have more respect for the color of my **** than I do for you
Wow! Poop jokes. How witty

12 year old...contact the individuals on my feedback that have met with me. Did you check the profile? It says USCG. You want verification, PM me and I'll send you my work number and information and ask for me when you call. Make sure you pay attention to what the person says when they greet you and you'll know it's for real.
Right. Because we all care so much let's check out your credentials. You sure think alot of you huh?

Just to name a few areas that have burn bans.
http://www.fire.ca.gov/fire_protecti...urnpermits.php
http://www.arkfireinfo.org/
http://www.forestry.state.ar.us/map/bbmap_png.php3
http://www.co.washington.tx.us/ips/cms/BurnBanStatus/
Or you could just check with your local fire department.

Here is your example of the "google search" straight to the manufacturers website, then to product and MSDS(material safety data sheet). MSDS is something EVERYONE is allowed to know. If you ask for it, the manufacturer MUST provide it.
We run businesses, we know what a MSDS is. Thanks for more of your keen insight though.

http://www.pwss.com/regulations.aspx...tId=13&CatId=1

You might want to verify if I'm talking out of my *** before you open that **** hole of yours. Because either I'm not bull ****ting and what I've been saying since my first post here is true and informative OR I'm the best damn googler out there.
Again... Nobody questioned your facts. We all already knew what you were saying. We just don't care about what you are saying because you are being a jerk.

Do me a favor though, google "smoke grenade facts" and tell me how much information that I have provided actually comes up. Nah. Don't care.
I salute you for being in the Coast Guard. In general they do some important stuff. You personally are still a jerk though.
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