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Old 06-05-2009, 07:12 PM #1
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Heckler & Koch suing paintball/airsoft companies

Heckler & Koch, Inc. v. BT Paintball Designs, Inc.
Lawsuit Details

RFC Case Number: T-H09-689B
Court Case Number: 1:09-cv-00689-DFH-TAB
File Date: Wednesday, June 03, 2009
Plaintiff: Heckler & Koch, Inc.
Plaintiff Counsel: Brian J. McGinnis, Darlene R. Seymour of Continental Enterprises
Defendant: BT Paintball Designs, Inc.
Cause: 15:1125 Trademark Infringement (Lanham Act)
Court: Indiana Southern District Court
Judge: Judge David Frank Hamilton
Referred To: Magistrate Judge Tim A. Baker

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Heckler & Koch, Inc. v. Tippman Sports LLC et al

RFC Case Number: T-H09-560T
Court Case Number: 1:09-cv-00560-WTL-TAB
File Date: Wednesday, May 06, 2009
Plaintiff: Heckler & Koch, Inc.
Plaintiff Counsel: Brian J. McGinnis, Darlene R. Seymour of Continental Enterprises
Defendant: Tippman Sports LLC
Tigerstripe Paintball LLC
Cause: 15:1114 Trademark Infringement
Court: Indiana Southern District Court
Judge: Judge William T. Lawrence
Referred To: Magistrate Judge Tim A. Baker
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Heckler & Koch, Inc. v. Precision Airsoft, LLC

RFC Case Number: T-H09-485P
Court Case Number: 1:09-cv-00485-SEB-JMS
File Date: Monday, April 20, 2009
Plaintiff: Heckler & Koch, Inc.
Plaintiff Counsel: Darlene R. Seymour - Attorney at Law
Defendant: Precision Airsoft, LLC
Cause: 28:1331 Fed. Question: Trademark
Court: Indiana Southern District Court
Judge: Judge Sarah Evans Barker
Referred To: Judge Jane Magnus-Stinson
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Heckler & Koch, Inc. v. Professional Arms, LLC

RFC Case Number: T-H09-387P
Court Case Number: 3:09-cv-00387-AC
File Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009
Plaintiff: Heckler & Koch, Inc.
Plaintiff Counsel: Paul G. Dodds of Brownstein Rask Sweeney Kerr Grim
Defendant: Professional Arms, LLC
Cause: 15:1114 Trademark Infringement
Court: Oregon District Court
Judge: Magistrate Judge John V. Acosta
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Heckler & Koch, Inc. v. Coharie Arms, Inc.

RFC Case Number: T-H09-184C
Court Case Number: 1:09-cv-00184-RLY-JMS
File Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009
Plaintiff: Heckler & Koch, Inc.
Plaintiff Counsel: Darlene R. Seymour - Attorney at Law
Defendant: Coharie Arms, Inc.
Special Weapons, Inc.
Cause: 28:1441 Petition for Removal
Court: Indiana Southern District Court
Judge: Judge Richard L. Young
Referred To: Judge Jane Magnus-Stinson
Notes: NOTICE OF REMOVAL from Hamilton County Superior Court, case number 29D02-0810-PL-1323.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:17 PM #2
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Great. I'm betting on trademark infringement
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:18 PM #4
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It is. They probably have a pretty good case too.
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court date was 2 days ago, howd it go
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looks like those companies are losing. I dont think too many people even realize how big H&K actually is.
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haha, I always wondered when something like this would happen.

Im sure it will expand to just some makers of add ons that look like H&K parts, or smalleer manufactureres, like Mil Sig
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court date was 2 days ago, howd it go
That was the FILE date, not the court date.


If it is over what I believe it is, H&K has it in the bag. It's a simple matter of the respective judges choose as a punishment.
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even the big guys are trying to figure out ways to make more money, why not sue? pretty dissapointed. airsoft and paintball is like free advertisment for H&k. they should sue H&K for money owed for product advertisment!

think about it. you see a bad *** h&k replica airsoft gun or paintball gun, you think about wanting the real deal.
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Most people who play paintball are not even old enough to own a real H&K.

This is why you should get expressed permission before you go and rip off another companies design/look. It will only cost you money.
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Most people who play paintball are not even old enough to own a real H&K.

This is why you should get expressed permission before you go and rip off another companies design/look. It will only cost you money.
very true im just trying not to side with H&K. devils advocate
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Most people who play paintball are not even old enough to own a real H&K.

This is why you should get expressed permission before you go and rip off another companies design/look. It will only cost you money.
heck, most people cant even afford one. Majority of class 3 firearms are beyond any reasonable price.
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heck, most people cant even afford one. Majority of class 3 firearms are beyond any reasonable price.
Not all HK firearms are considered class 3.

HK91 is an excellent example, however, they are still $1200+.
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:24 PM #14
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paintball 2.0 gets kicked in the balls and they have not even started yet.
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:28 PM #15
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Well seeing as BT has marker created just like it, how could they have not seen this coming?
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exactly. im not saying it MAKES people buy the gun, but puts the name out there.

do billboards REALLY make you buy a cheeseburger from mcdonalds? or do they put the idea in your head to get one.

just trying to make this a 2 sided aurgument, i can see h&k's argument, but they were actually done a favor. none of those companies are producing anything that COMPETES with H&K's market. or does H&K have an airsoft/ paintball line up planned?
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The amount of money paintball company's made off the look a like products is not nearly equal to the sales these products made for H&K. If I had a intellectual property and someone else was making money off it I would want some coin. I would also sleep well at night, probly on a nicer bed then I do now.
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Eventually companies are going to realize that a "free market economy" does not mean you can freely use other companies design ideas.
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theyre not stealing ideas. theyre PAINTBALL GUNS. i dont think someone buying a paintball gun that looks like an MP5 is taking away from H&K's business.

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not by a long shot

Tippmanns and BT's are the standard issue rental guns.
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