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Old 05-14-2009, 09:31 PM #43
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Old 05-14-2009, 11:50 PM #45
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Old 05-15-2009, 12:54 PM #46
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I'm in the Northeast. I live in NY and go to school in MA so if you need someone from this region I'd be happy to test it lol. But yea, you need to make sure you're sending these to people who know how to properly test something and document their findings. You can't have people who think they can "see" their Alien sweep bolt shooting farther, flatter, whatever lol.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:19 PM #48
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Really...?

I speculate that the best way to upgrade the bolt is to also upgrade the stem too. The tape mod proves that the flow rate through the bolt is less than what is stored in the dump chamber... If you change the front disk to a smaller (1/4"dia) version, you'll increase the flow rate, maybe enough to make use of the entire dump chamber...

And as far as plastic goes, it's rare to find a plastic as brittle as aluminum. There isn't a reason that I can see for not using it always for this application... And as far as this guy "not telling which type", doesn't matter. I could point out a hundred different kinds that would work... It's just that delrin or nylatron is the cheapest to manufacture.
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Old 05-16-2009, 12:44 PM #49
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Well i have alot of projects going. my shocker bolt and quest bolt are the first then making a pin and quest bolt. then make all new shocker internals. Im desighing a gen5 ram.

I researched alot on plastics. I find out a couple that would work and work well. I no alot would work but i want one to work well. Derlin doesn't to well in spool valve guns to well, scratches the bolt up

Price doesnt matter to me because i only have to pay for material.

Im machining them or gone to have one of my co workers machine them.

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Old 05-16-2009, 11:11 PM #50
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Old 05-17-2009, 08:37 AM #51
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Just another thought floating around in my head - have you considering sleeving the nose of the bolt with an alloy cylinder to help avoid scratching? Much like the Nox Kilo bolts for the Shocker do.

Having said that, the nose of a Quest bolt isn't as critical a sealing surface as on a Shocker bolt - it is only sealing the breech as the marker fires, rather than sealing the firing chamber - so sleeving it may be more trouble than it is really worth.
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Old 05-17-2009, 12:33 PM #52
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I told him to consider a replaceable rubber sleeve.
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Old 05-17-2009, 12:54 PM #53
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Also, one thing to consider would be a soft faced bolt. Something like the soft face on the angel a1 bolt.
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Old 05-17-2009, 05:04 PM #54
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Those bolts mess with flow IIRC
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Old 05-17-2009, 05:11 PM #55
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They would cause some reduction in flow, yes.

Having said that, some Angels have been tuned to be very efficient, so I guess it isn't having too big of a negative effect - probably just bumping up the minimum required operating pressure.
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Old 05-17-2009, 05:38 PM #56
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IIRC, higher input pressure=more efficiency, right?
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In theory, lower operating pressures should be just as efficient, if not more efficient - in practise, higher operating pressures generally work out better.

A small burst of high pressure air expands in to a larger volume of low pressure air, so assuming it takes the same amount of energy to launch a ball either way, then it shouldn't really matter which approach you use. The low pressure marker then has the advantage of letting you run your tank down to a lower pressure without velocity loss. So you should gain some shots there.

Problem is that the low pressure air hasn't got much energy behind it, and will lose it as it makes it's way through your marker, you then have to compensate for that by releasing more air.

If your marker was absolutely optimised for high flow, low pressure use, then you may see gains - think of things like the AKALMP low pressure kits for various markers. If you aren't going to go to the trouble and expense of optimising the marker for low pressure use, then you'll gain more by finding the markers operating pressure (sweet spotting the reg in other words) and running at that pressure, which will most likely be higher than the minimum operating pressure.
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Just another thought floating around in my head - have you considering sleeving the nose of the bolt with an alloy cylinder to help avoid scratching? Much like the Nox Kilo bolts for the Shocker do.

Having said that, the nose of a Quest bolt isn't as critical a sealing surface as on a Shocker bolt - it is only sealing the breech as the marker fires, rather than sealing the firing chamber - so sleeving it may be more trouble than it is really worth.
Yes i thought about that because the shocker bolt give me the idea to make a quest bolt
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Also, one thing to consider would be a soft faced bolt. Something like the soft face on the angel a1 bolt.
Also thinking about that to ,but they dont have help with brittle paint
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The best flow in a bolt is down the middle.

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IIRC, higher input pressure=more efficiency, right?
Ive seen you use this IIRC thing a few times now...wtf is that?
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