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Old 05-02-2009, 02:14 PM #1
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The Threat of Holocaust Denial

The United States is lagging behind other progressive nations in passing laws protecting citizens from Holocaust Denial. Other countries have taken courageous efforts to protect human rights by making holocaust denial a crime, but the United States has became a hotbed of vile hatred and anti sematism. Recent flu outbreaks and finanical problems have fueled racism, racism that must be fought.

Holocaust denial causes several human rights violations
  • Trivializes the suffering of Jews and other minorities and LGBT communities
  • Causes confusion. The public should have the freedom from being confused about such a crucial and horrifying topic
  • Can cause emotional trauma to vulnerable people exposed to the vile hatred holocaust deniers spew

Just recently ex KKK grand wizard and state representative David Duke was arrested in Europe for holocaust denial. Unfortunately he was released the next day to resume terrorizing the world with his hate speech. He claims that people should have the freedom to hold questions about the holocaust and has even met with the iranian president who wants to nuke all jews in the world. But despite all the wrongs Europe and people of European decent are guilty of now and in the past, there seems to be progress in the fight agaisnt holocaust denial, especially in germany.

Obama swore to fight holocaust denial in a recent speech but unfortunately the first ammendment may still be interpreted in a racist manner to cover hate speech. Americans need to have freedom to know the truth and not be confused and traumatized by hate speech. There is no freedom of speech for white supremacists.

Hate and questioning the holocaust do not fall under free speech, it violates human rights.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:17 PM #2
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hey, coebz. i've missed you. glad to have you back!

i want to know how someone can begin to deny the holocaust.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:18 PM #3
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Are you kidding me?


If you want to deny the holocaust, you have that right under your First Amendment.

The day they make that a crime here in the US, you will have begun to lose a freedom.

You don't have to agree with it but it is their right.

It is every persons right within the United States to hate anyone they want for what ever they want.
They are stupid for it but they have that right.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:18 PM #4
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Are you serious? You want them to make it illegal to deny the Holocaust in America? Really?
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:19 PM #5
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Some holocaust deniers try to hide their hate by not completely denying it but by questioning the number of Jews killed and saying it was because the allies bombed food supply lines and they starved.

Still it is hate speech
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:20 PM #6
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Some holocaust deniers try to hide their hate by not completely denying it but by questioning the number of Jews killed and saying it was because the allies bombed food supply lines and they starved.

Still it is hate speech
It doesn't matter what it is, they have a right to say it.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:24 PM #7
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1st amendment > human rights

Sorry, but you loose, get out of my country, thank you.
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LOL. So you tell me it is a human right to coerce the thoughts of those with minority viewpoints? ****, democrats these days.

Once they get a majority, they **** over the minority.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:30 PM #9
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Holocaust denial is straight up First Amendment. The First Amendment of course protects hate speech and racism but what the hell? How many Americans take Holocaust denial seriously or how many people take people like David Duke and various white power organizations seriously? Some, but what does it matter what a couple of rednecks think?

Instead of trying to take the rights away from people like David Duke why not try and better educate the public? All taking rights away from them is doing is just getting them more passionate about there cause, which really isn't a big issue anyway.

And there's no freedom of speech for white supremacists? Sorry bro but there is, just like there is for the Westboro Baptist Church. Not that I like either but they still have there rights.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:43 PM #10
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lol. YES HE'S BACK. omfg I was waiting for this day
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:48 PM #11
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Coebz is a brainwashed troll. Just ignore him and lol at his posts.
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Old 05-02-2009, 03:01 PM #12
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yea that whole 1st amendment thing is sort of pesky, we should get rid of it
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Old 05-02-2009, 03:06 PM #13
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LOL. So you tell me it is a human right to coerce the thoughts of those with minority viewpoints? ****, democrats these days.

Once they get a majority, they **** over the minority.
Yes which is why the Bush Admin tried to shut up Howard Stern
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Holocaust denial is straight up First Amendment. The First Amendment of course protects hate speech and racism but what the hell? How many Americans take Holocaust denial seriously or how many people take people like David Duke and various white power organizations seriously? Some, but what does it matter what a couple of rednecks think?

Instead of trying to take the rights away from people like David Duke why not try and better educate the public? All taking rights away from them is doing is just getting them more passionate about there cause, which really isn't a big issue anyway.

And there's no freedom of speech for white supremacists? Sorry bro but there is, just like there is for the Westboro Baptist Church. Not that I like either but they still have there rights.
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Coebz wants the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendment abolished...

...for white people...
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Coebz is a brainwashed troll. Just ignore him and lol at his posts.
Be careful, that kind of bigotry will get you thrown in jail.

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Be careful, that kind of bigotry will get you thrown in jail.

your sarcasm and racism has forced me to summon the truth squads.
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However appropriate it is, you're giving your profile picture thing an ugly association.
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Yes which is why the Bush Admin tried to shut up Howard Stern
Did I ever say the neo-cons of the Republican party didn't like censorship? You sound like a sad little democrat, here, enjoy this:

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I"m sorry but this is purely retarded.
We're going to FORCE people to believe the Holocaust actually happened as it allegedly did?

Freedom of speech.
You can believe what you want.
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while we're at it, i'd also like to see a law making it illegal to criticize my beloved fuhrer!

coebz...goose-step much?
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