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Old 03-23-2009, 06:50 AM #1
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Compatibility questions ?

Does anyone know if the Ion's (not XE) front breech, is compatible with the SP-1's firing can ?

I am trying to convert my Ion to a SP-1 body and still retain the BOB feature of the SP-1.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:36 PM #2
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The SP1 breech/firing can is all one piece so no.

You might want to consider using a chopped Ion frame instead. You'll have to use longer air lines and fit the frame to the SP1 body. Plus the Ion board is in the frame, not under the upper body like the SP1.

Hope that helps.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:57 PM #3
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In the pics thread there is an ION with an SP-1 body on it's on the third page, third post I think. maybe this link will work.
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2435063&page=3
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:32 PM #4
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The SP1 breech/firing can is all one piece so no.
That I did not know, thanks. Tell me this, if the Blackheart board upgrade for the Vibe/SP-1 replaces the breech for use of eyes, they replace the breech and firing can ?

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You might want to consider using a chopped Ion frame instead. You'll have to use longer air lines and fit the frame to the SP1 body. Plus the Ion board is in the frame, not under the upper body like the SP1. Hope that helps.
Actually, I was going to swap up the breech of the Ion with the breech/Firing can of the SP-1 and attach the Ion grip to it. Since the SP-1 outer body is essentially an outer shell just like the plastic bodies of the Ion, it should work.

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In the pics thread there is an ION with an SP-1 body on it's on the third page, third post I think. maybe this link will work.
I assume your referring to this one:



And if so, you can see the breech has been removed from the SP-1, unless its just a barrel cover (the thing with the 3 slots/holes milled into it) which draws me to the conclusion that the owner removed the guts of the SP-1 and replaced the outer body of his Ion with that of the SP-1. I am just trying to figure out if there is a way to make to retain the BOB feature.

I already have more money invested into an Ion then I should and don't want to do this again to a SP-1, therefore I am trying to convert my Ion to a SP-1 and retain all the performance features of the Ion.
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:50 PM #5
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I think you can just buy the body kit from SP there was a link somewhere and they were only like $25 for the body.
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:54 PM #6
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I think you can just buy the body kit from SP there was a link somewhere and they were only like $25 for the body.
Yeah, I know where to get it, but I'm going to need more then just the body if I want to retain the BOB feature.
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:08 PM #7
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Cool bro that's all I got-good luck with your project
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Old 03-24-2009, 11:33 AM #8
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Check out the XE upgrade. It obviously has the BOB feature but retains the Ion features as well.

Blackheart: The kit includes: All new breech (which is an intergrated one piece breech and firing can like the Ion XE), board, eyes, and qev already on the board.

Honestly I would just go with the Blackheart. Fewer logistic issues, lower price, and spare parts. After the swap you'll have the stock breech and board for backup. They other way might pose a problem as you have to either fit the board to the SP trigger frame ot fir an Ion frame to the SP body. You'd have to fit an Ion trigger to the SP body and get the clearance right so that it would actuate the micro switch.
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Old 03-26-2009, 04:54 AM #9
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Check out the XE upgrade. It obviously has the BOB feature but retains the Ion features as well.
Xe is the same as SP-1/Vibe, 1 solid tube, which doesn't do me any good.

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Blackheart: The kit includes: All new breech (which is an intergrated one piece breech and firing can like the Ion XE), board, eyes, and qev already on the board.

Honestly I would just go with the Blackheart. Fewer logistic issues, lower price, and spare parts. After the swap you'll have the stock breech and board for backup. They other way might pose a problem as you have to either fit the board to the SP trigger frame ot fir an Ion frame to the SP body. You'd have to fit an Ion trigger to the SP body and get the clearance right so that it would actuate the micro switch.
Personally, mho, the Blackheart sucked in the old Ions and I am turned off about putting one in a SP-1. The board is already in the trigger frame of the Ion, the Ion trigger frame bolts up to the SP-1 internal breech, no problem, no problems with board clearance either. The Ion trigger isn't an issue either, its in an Ion frame. The only reason I want this is to use the Punishers Custom frame with the 15* reg, as well as my Virtue board. I guess I'll just buy the SP-1 shell and slide over my existing Ion like the others did.
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Old 03-30-2009, 08:39 AM #10
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I guess I'll just buy the SP-1 shell and slide over my existing Ion like the others did.
you should be able to clean it up real nice. putty in the gaps so no one would even know the difference.
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Old 03-30-2009, 02:27 PM #11
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Nah, I picked up an XE conversion locally, real cheap, so I am going that route. There shouldn't be any gaps other then one between the front grip/reg which a picatinny rail should cover and the slight space behind the trigger frame and the back of the SP-1 body. I can live with that, no big deal.
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:54 AM #12
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Be sure and post up some pics and updates when you get it done
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Old 04-01-2009, 12:34 AM #13
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I will. Once I get all the parts together, I am sending them out to have them Hydrodipped in a Marpat/Digi Camo style coating. then I will post up pics
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:27 AM #14
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where can you buy just the sp-1 body? im working on a project to put a rip clip on an sp1.
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:48 AM #15
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My guess..

Smart Parts Directly? Call their customer service line, and talk to Sales. They should point you in the correct direction.

I looked at all of the websites that I would think would have them, and NO go... must be one of those things that only are obtainable through them.
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Old 04-11-2009, 05:38 PM #16
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Old 04-12-2009, 03:53 AM #17
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Or here specifically....

http://www.smartpartsparts.com/SP110...SP1-p/7574.htm


funny, I looked at that site first, before making the above post.. and they must have been updating the site, because NONE of the above page was available..
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Old 04-12-2009, 08:20 AM #18
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funny, I looked at that site first, before making the above post.. and they must have been updating the site, because NONE of the above page was available..
Actually, I found that right after they released the BH board, so its been there for awhile now.
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Old 04-12-2009, 08:26 AM #19
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nevermind, found what i was looking for.

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Old 04-12-2009, 08:29 AM #20
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tech-t sleeper body http://pbtester.biz/sleeperbody.html

this gives you the bob as well you should be able to drill and tap the body for tactical rails
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Old 04-12-2009, 09:06 AM #21
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Yeah, but the SP-1 body is only 25.00.
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