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Old 02-28-2015, 05:32 PM #1
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WGP Build First Timer

Well its been a journey but I finally finished/timed/tuned my first cocker build.








WGP 2k2 or 2k3? Body
Shocktech Superfly Bolt
Jack Hammer 2 LPR (Full Rebuild)
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Old 02-28-2015, 09:37 PM #2
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Old 03-01-2015, 12:20 AM #3
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Outstanding! Looks great!
Sticking with those grips eh?
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Old 03-01-2015, 06:34 AM #4
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It's a 2k3 body, just so you know.
Welcome to the club.
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:40 PM #5
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It's a 2k3 body, just so you know.
Welcome to the club.
Thank you, its good to know now
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:41 PM #6
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Outstanding! Looks great!
Sticking with those grips eh?
I'll see whats out there. I don't mind them much
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Old 03-01-2015, 03:34 PM #7
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Mind over matter! If you don't mind, it don't matter.
I got a set of 32 degrees "sticky grips" from paintballgateway.com for like $10! They're not quite that sticky, but better than non sticky. IDK why dye ever discontinued the .45 sticky. You can find them on ebay sometimes though.
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Old 03-01-2015, 08:10 PM #8
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Nice job! Should a fun shooter.
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Old 03-04-2015, 08:03 PM #9
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Welcome to the club! They are some very addicting guns. Youll have a wall full of them before ya know it.

There is a trigger stop hidden inside that frame in case you didnt know. It can shorten the pull by more than half easily but still remain very reliable.
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Welcome to the club! They are some very addicting guns. Youll have a wall full of them before ya know it.

There is a trigger stop hidden inside that frame in case you didnt know. It can shorten the pull by more than half easily but still remain very reliable.
U mean like take out the safety?
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Nope not the safety. You might be thinking about the WGP cam adjuster which replaces the safety and shortens the trigger. But those are basically useless in those frame since they have the trigger stop I referring to.

Take off the grips so you can access the hollow part of the frame thats hidden by the grips. There's a vertical hole under the sear thats on the top of the hollow section. Inside hole is a screw that will shorten the pull by turning it in (or up) towards the sear.

Sorry if I didn't explain that well enough. If didn't let me know because you'll want to take advantage of that trigger stop. It's the best feature of the WGP hinge frame..
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Nope not the safety. You might be thinking about the WGP cam adjuster which replaces the safety and shortens the trigger. But those are basically useless in those frame since they have the trigger stop I referring to.

Take off the grips so you can access the hollow part of the frame thats hidden by the grips. There's a vertical hole under the sear thats on the top of the hollow section. Inside hole is a screw that will shorten the pull by turning it in (or up) towards the sear.

Sorry if I didn't explain that well enough. If didn't let me know because you'll want to take advantage of that trigger stop. It's the best feature of the WGP hinge frame..
I found some brand new dye stickys on eBay so when they come in I'll look at what your referring to.

I just figured the adjustment for the hammer where u set the trigger pull length does this?
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Old 03-05-2015, 09:08 PM #13
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Old 04-03-2015, 01:05 PM #14
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Nope not the safety. You might be thinking about the WGP cam adjuster which replaces the safety and shortens the trigger. But those are basically useless in those frame since they have the trigger stop I referring to.

Take off the grips so you can access the hollow part of the frame thats hidden by the grips. There's a vertical hole under the sear thats on the top of the hollow section. Inside hole is a screw that will shorten the pull by turning it in (or up) towards the sear.

Sorry if I didn't explain that well enough. If didn't let me know because you'll want to take advantage of that trigger stop. It's the best feature of the WGP hinge frame..
Going to check it out tonight before I go play tomorrow.

I'm going to shorten it with timing and also the set screw your referring to.
Pretty much it is just the final stopping point right?

Because I know I can let go of the trigger eariler since i can here it recock... but I pull it all the way to the back just to make sure I dont short stroke it. And yes its a LONG pull. I'm just hoping it will not interfere with the recocking when I adjust the stop (pretty much as long as I dont get too happy and adjust the screw TOO much correct?)

I was also wondering if theres a way to make it a shofter pull. I know there are softer springs as well as someone told me I do not need the return spring at all.

Can anyone confirm this?

I am VERY impressed on how well this cocker shoots, and playing with it for the 3rd or 4th time, i've just needed to slightly move the IVG from shooting different paint since I got this sucker sweet spotted. Love this thing, need to post an updated pic with the stickys.

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Yeah, the trigger stop in the grip frame shores up the rear of the pull.

Move all of your timing points as far forward as you're comfortable, then tighten the stop until you're happy with the overall travel.

If you get a maddman spring kit it usually comes with a nicer sear spring, but there's also some pens out there that have pretty fat springs in them.

Google "Delta Elite Ballpoint Pen." you'll see the one, they sell them all over the place. Any staples or office depot would have them.
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Yeah, the trigger stop in the grip frame shores up the rear of the pull.

Move all of your timing points as far forward as you're comfortable, then tighten the stop until you're happy with the overall travel.

If you get a maddman spring kit it usually comes with a nicer sear spring, but there's also some pens out there that have pretty fat springs in them.

Google "Delta Elite Ballpoint Pen." you'll see the one, they sell them all over the place. Any staples or office depot would have them.
awesome. I got the ans 3-way so I should be able to get this badboy pretty short without blowback issues. And you just went ahead and slapped in that pen spring for your sear and it was fine? I was looking into the maddmanns, but I really dont need all those other springs to be "lighter on paint" never had ball break issues of of yet.


Went to a critical crew day last week, and everyone was complimenting my cocker and wanting to hear it shoot .
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Old 04-03-2015, 03:50 PM #17
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Have you removed the leaf spring that sits on the trigger yet, that helped smooth out my prostock's trigger pull a lot, just make sure to have a clean trigger so it slides freely inside the frame.
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:29 PM #18
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Have you removed the leaf spring that sits on the trigger yet, that helped smooth out my prostock's trigger pull a lot, just make sure to have a clean trigger so it slides freely inside the frame.
Thats the spring I was curious about.

So I can remove that bad boy and it won't cause any issues? It's job is to return the trigger correct? Figured you'd want to keep it to get a good snap back for the next shot.
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Old 04-03-2015, 05:03 PM #19
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I think you'd need a pretty meaty sear spring to work without that leaf spring. I run into re-cocking issues if I don't release the trigger fast enough.
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Nope, pull the thing out.

The ANS is a really smooth three way. If your rod, shaft, and trigger are clean and true, you're golden. You probably wouldn't even need the pen spring. You'll just need to spend a tank or so of air with the bolt upside down to get it juuuust right.

I should also add, that you do need a spring kit. I swear every last autococker is different and wants different things to be happy. Having a spring kit and some free time is the only way to dial out all the kinks.

That said, if you're happy and have no issues, there is no issue.
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Looking great! You know closed bolt guns shoot straighter and farther
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