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Old 01-21-2009, 03:11 PM #1
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Possible Changes to the MPS - PSP Universal Classification System

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Chris Raehl who is the owner of the American Paintball Players Association website (APPA), sent me the file below of a “Universal Classification System” they are wanting to start up that works in conjunction with the PSP. The file below is just a draft and there are a lot of details that will be worked out on February 5th.

I am seriously considering re-organizing the MPS to fall under this program. After reading the draft, below are the good things about this program:

- It is a NATION WIDE classification system
- See where your team will be ranked among teams all over the nation as well as the MPS
- Classifications are integrated into PSP classifications
- Nationwide attention to the MPS
- One standard set of rules that will be consistent across the nation

If this happens, it would mean the following for the MPS:

- The rules of the MPS will be no longer. We will use the 2009 PSP rules (with a few rules modified to fit a local event opposed to a national event)
- Level 4 will be known as D5. Still a 3Man format. This Division is for players brand new to competition and is designed to provide a low-pressure and fun experience. We will do prizes even though the document says that prizes are discouraged.
- Level 3 will be known as D4. Still a 3Man format. Known as the “collection” division. These players are either too experienced to play D5 or they are competitive local teams on their way to D3.
- Level 2 will be known as D3. Still a 5Man format. These players are your more competitive players who play regionally and perhaps even regular participants at national-level events. We will still be allowing one Open Class player on a D3 roster.
- Level 1 will still be an open class meaning that D2 or higher (D1, SemiPro, Pro) players can play in this class. Still a 5Man format.

As mentioned, there are still a lot of un-known’s about this format and hopefully I will have more information about it after February 5th. I wanted to post this however now and get your input on this system.









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Old 01-21-2009, 03:23 PM #2
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So what will be L3 a race to 2 points??
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:19 PM #3
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Quote from a player sent to me via email....

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Sounds like a system paintball has needed for years. I like and would support MPS's switch to the new system.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:20 PM #4
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So what will be L3 a race to 2 points??
I'm not sure how the points would work quite yet. I'll let you know after Feb 5th.

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Old 01-21-2009, 04:35 PM #5
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So would this mean success at the regional level mean your ranking moves up nationally? For instance, L2 teams that have had success and are moved up to L1(old system) would this cause them to be ranked D2?
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:37 PM #6
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so pretty much we are playing xball now ? sweet ..i love xbal but if we r paint prices will be ridiculous.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:37 PM #7
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I like the style of MPS the way it is now.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:41 PM #8
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So would this mean success at the regional level mean your ranking moves up nationally? For instance, L2 teams that have had success and are moved up to L1(old system) would this cause them to be ranked D2?

What division would you (EA) qualify under now if you played PSP?
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:42 PM #9
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so pretty much we are playing xball now ? sweet ..i love xbal but if we r paint prices will be ridiculous.
We would NOT be under the XBall or XBall Lite format. We would remain as the 5man and 3man format.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:42 PM #10
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I like the style of MPS the way it is now.
Please be specific on why you like the current style of the MPS or specifics on why you dont' like the new system
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:42 PM #11
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another email i received from another player via email...

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Old 01-21-2009, 04:52 PM #12
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If I'm looking at the chart right we would be D3 because of how we did regionally last year. I wasn't asking that question trying not to move up in your series, but out of a concern about being bumped nationally. At Cup last year there were a ton of very talented D4 teams
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:34 PM #13
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You won't get bumped nationally for playing MPS...yet.

It says the criteria for bumping a player to the next level have not been determined yet. They use the example of some players being satisfied as staying ranked D4/D3 indefinitely. That would be L2 Midwest, from my understanding.

Once Dan and the boys set a criteria for their particular tournament, you will be moved up inside of the regional box. You have to actually play PSP to be moved up in the PSP. Winning Midwest year after year will not affect your national ranking, unless you begin to participate and win in national events.

This is the basic understanding I got from it...if I am wrong, my bad.
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:59 PM #14
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What he is asking is.... in the MPS, his team is D2 because he they won 2+ events in L2 last year. But when he playes in the PSP, they play D3 (not D2). That would be something that we would need to work out.
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Old 01-21-2009, 06:04 PM #15
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Sounds awesome to me. Uniformity ftw.
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Old 01-21-2009, 06:09 PM #16
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if my team has never played a PSP or any national tourny, but we are playing L3 in the MPS this year, could we still do D5 at cup, or would we be D4?
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:24 PM #17
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So is everyone going to have to get like a virtue board to adjust their marker bps down or......?

Good to hear that you guys are working on it and trying to make it more competitive.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:25 PM #18
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as long as ranks arent effected nationally (PSP) i think it would be great
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:41 PM #19
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You guys are asking some very valid and good questions. Thanks for your input.

Keep in mind, if there are too many "what if's", then we will not use this system for the MPS.

At face value it looks good. We'll half to see what happens after the 5th and maybe some of your questions will get answered.

I've asked Chris to visit this forum and answer any questions you may have that I can not answer. Hopefully he'll do that soon.

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Old 01-21-2009, 07:46 PM #20
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Wouldn't this elemenate the L1 division? Are there currently any teams in the MPS playing D2? Looks like all of the 5 man teams would qualify for L2, even the teams that have won the division in the past as well as the current L1 teams.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:48 PM #21
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I agree at face value this seems like a great idea. A nation wide system would help across the board. At Cup there seemed to be some guys with plenty of NPPL experience playing D4 just because they didn't rank high under APPA. This would cut down on the gray areas about who should play where. It would just be a matter of trying to figure out how to apply the system.
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