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Old 12-10-2008, 10:59 PM
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ok so this is my second viking an 03 half mill i got this in august and planned to mill it and get a nice anno like my current viking so right now i have abt $400 in this gun

so then it goes to destructive customs where i spend over $1000 on it




after milling man its goona look so good after anno i couldnt wait

i selected empire03 for the anno work, he seemed reputable and new i figured why not help out a new business, being a small business owner( a paintball store) i figured help him out, he does good work ill send more work his way. so i contact him ask for a speeded up turn around( what can i say im semi impatient) so for an extra $20 i can get my gun done in a few days ie as fast as possible

i sent the gun out the 11th and he received it the 14th
these are the parts he is to work on
14 pieces total

frame
tray
lpr body
lpr housing
black

viking body
feedneck ring
2 data port covers
trigger
lpr cap
2 end caps
barrel front
reg piece
dust blue




so i figure cool in a few days ill have some pics of my viking it will be back to DC and i should have this before december hits, .... well that wasnt the case

on the 20th 6 days later i figured well heres my pics awesome i open the PM and he says o just stripped everything


so im a bit upset by this but figure well stripped it today anno tomorrow it will go out in a day or 2 not to bad i know ppl have lives that get in the way of paintball and were not all machines that just do work 24/7

so this brings us to DEC 8th/9th (it was late after midnight i figured ide leave him a msg on aim) see aim convo post#2

the morning of the 9th i file a paypal claim this instantly get his attention. see below
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paintballersedge: (12:45:13 PM) so is there any good news?
paintballersedge: (3:14:18 PM) u should really talk to me
paintballersedge: (3:14:37 PM) im not goin to wait 3 months like twig2008 did
paintballersedge: (3:38:38 PM) i filled a claim in paypal
paintballersedge: (3:39:19 PM) if i do not hear word from you by wednesday night at 10pm i will escilate it to a dispute and post this as a theft on pbnation
rednecking247: (4:46:01 PM) dude
rednecking247: (4:46:06 PM) chill
rednecking247: (4:46:55 PM) 1st off twig didnt wait 3 monhts it was a few days short of a month
paintballersedge: (4:47:27 PM) ok well how about u just get my black parts done today and get a pic for me of the blue parts please
rednecking247: (4:47:35 PM) twig is a backstabbing liar
paintballersedge: (4:47:42 PM) i do not care
rednecking247: (4:48:07 PM) ok well
paintballersedge: (4:48:24 PM) i paid extra for fast turn around and im just short of a month with no work done
paintballersedge: (4:48:28 PM) thats what i care abt
rednecking247: (4:48:32 PM) ill try to get your black parts done today
rednecking247: (4:48:52 PM) your just now at two weeks bra
paintballersedge: (4:49:10 PM) u got it on the 11th parts were stripped on the 20th
rednecking247: (4:49:25 PM) i told you that i was giving you the money you paid extra back
paintballersedge: (4:49:37 PM) must have not gotten that msg
rednecking247: (4:50:01 PM) well i told you
paintballersedge: (4:50:39 PM) ok then can i get a pic of the work that is done so far and a pic of it all completed tomorrow?
rednecking247: (4:51:08 PM) Ill try and get you pics yes.
paintballersedge: (4:51:33 PM) ok ill be waiting pm them to me on pbn
rednecking247: (4:51:39 PM) ok
rednecking247: (4:57:13 PM) i need you to close the claim plz
rednecking247: (4:57:30 PM) i cant ship out your stuff if the claim is open
paintballersedge: (4:57:46 PM) ok ull need the address to ship them to
paintballersedge: (4:57:48 PM) its
paintballersedge: (4:58:28 PM) Destructive Customs, LLC
40 Nutting Ave
Florence, MA 01062
rednecking247: (4:58:45 PM) ok
paintballersedge: (4:59:45 PM) ill close the claim when i get a pic of the blue parts
rednecking247: (4:59:53 PM) ok
rednecking247: (5:00:40 PM) ok so these are the parts that are done in blue lmk if anything is missing
rednecking247: (5:01:52 PM) 2 valve covers?, trigger,feedneck collar,looks like yey cover?and some kind of seat lpr i belive
paintballersedge: (5:02:22 PM) the body?...
rednecking247: (5:02:44 PM) body is blue?
paintballersedge: (5:02:48 PM) yes
paintballersedge: (5:02:56 PM) i sent u everything in a list in the pm
paintballersedge: (5:03:00 PM) viking body
feedneck ring
2 data port covers
trigger
lpr cap
2 end caps
barrel front
reg piece
rednecking247: (5:03:02 PM) and thats all?
paintballersedge: (5:03:03 PM) blue parts
paintballersedge: (5:06:51 PM) just get me a pic and ill tell u what to anno
rednecking247: (5:07:05 PM) ok
paintballersedge: (5:15:42 PM) so ur taking pics right now
rednecking247: (5:15:55 PM) no i cant
paintballersedge: (5:16:01 PM) when can you?
rednecking247: (5:16:02 PM) no camera
rednecking247: (5:16:17 PM) some time today
paintballersedge: (5:16:23 PM) like?
rednecking247: (5:16:36 PM) idk man
paintballersedge: (5:16:59 PM) how abt i just take pics of all the parts ur supposed to anno blue so that way u know what to do
rednecking247: (5:17:34 PM) ok thats fine i only anno'd the ones listed
paintballersedge: (5:17:39 PM) ok
paintballersedge: (5:17:50 PM) did u open the box that said do not anno?
rednecking247: (5:18:37 PM) yes but the parts are still in them
paintballersedge: (5:18:44 PM) ok good
paintballersedge: (5:19:03 PM) i will take pics of what else has to be anno'd blue
rednecking247: (5:19:33 PM) ok
paintballersedge: (5:20:11 PM) what do the "looks like and eye cover" look like? do they have any engraving on them?
rednecking247: (5:20:37 PM) i mean it looks like a cover peice
rednecking247: (5:20:43 PM) about a inch long
rednecking247: (5:20:50 PM) flat on one side
paintballersedge: (5:20:50 PM) ok
paintballersedge: (5:20:51 PM) good
paintballersedge: (5:20:57 PM) those are the date port covers
rednecking247: (5:21:06 PM) theres only one
paintballersedge: (5:21:15 PM) theres 2
paintballersedge: (5:21:38 PM) look around in the stuff u didnt anno yet
paintballersedge: (5:22:22 PM) does the lpr seat have a place where u could put an allen wrench in the front of it?
rednecking247: (5:22:30 PM) yes
paintballersedge: (5:22:32 PM) ok
rednecking247: (5:23:26 PM) are you sure you sent 2 covers?
paintballersedge: (5:23:28 PM) and the 2 valve covers are both over an inch long one has 2 oring groves the other has porting and oring groves
paintballersedge: (5:23:30 PM) yes
rednecking247: (5:23:55 PM) when i recieve orders every part goes into a freezer bag
paintballersedge: (5:24:00 PM) check to see that the cover isnt with the tray or by the body
rednecking247: (5:24:09 PM) and im looking at the bag and nothing man
paintballersedge: (5:24:54 PM) ok w/e
paintballersedge: (5:25:03 PM) those are replaceable
rednecking247: (5:25:23 PM) ok look
rednecking247: (5:25:53 PM) there is 3 of those covers i belive
paintballersedge: (5:26:21 PM) ok?
paintballersedge: (5:26:40 PM) so u do have it?
rednecking247: (5:28:25 PM) alright so
rednecking247: (5:28:33 PM) thenvm i see the 2 covers
rednecking247: (5:28:38 PM) those asre the ones i anno'd
paintballersedge: (5:28:53 PM) ok so 1 cover has to be anno'd
paintballersedge: (5:28:55 PM) ?
rednecking247: (5:29:13 PM) both covers
rednecking247: (5:29:26 PM) and the other looks the same without the flat side
rednecking247: (5:29:38 PM) so that one will be blue
paintballersedge: (5:30:22 PM) ill take a pic of the data port covers
paintballersedge: (5:30:24 PM) hold on
rednecking247: (5:30:29 PM) ok
paintballersedge: (5:32:09 PM) whats your email ill send it straight there
rednecking247: (5:35:13 PM) annotech@live.com
paintballersedge: (5:36:33 PM) ok so what i can gather u didnt anno the body barrel front the middle of the sidewinder and maybe 1 or 2 data port covers
rednecking247: (5:36:59 PM) i got the covers the rest no
paintballersedge: (5:37:32 PM) ok so i have 2 blue data port covers
rednecking247: (5:37:37 PM) yes
rednecking247: (5:38:04 PM) o no wait
rednecking247: (5:38:12 PM) you have 2 valve covres
paintballersedge: (5:38:28 PM) are the both blue?
rednecking247: (5:38:38 PM) valve covers yes
paintballersedge: (5:39:05 PM) do either of them have threading on the front ie, not a flat space with 3 holes in them
rednecking247: (5:39:43 PM) no both have 3 holes
paintballersedge: (5:39:47 PM) ok good
rednecking247: (5:40:11 PM) the other one should be black correct?
paintballersedge: (5:40:23 PM) yes it is currently raw AL
rednecking247: (5:40:30 PM) yup
paintballersedge: (5:40:35 PM) yes that is black
rednecking247: (5:40:50 PM) do you want me to anno the data cover black?
rednecking247: (5:41:01 PM) so when you get another one it is black?
paintballersedge: (5:41:09 PM) both data covers are supposed to be blue
rednecking247: (5:41:23 PM) i only have one tho
paintballersedge: (5:42:02 PM) no leave it blue i can get a clear one
rednecking247: (5:42:13 PM) ok
paintballersedge: (5:42:49 PM) rame
tray
lpr body
lpr housing
black
paintballersedge: (5:43:05 PM) those are supposed to be black do u have those organized
rednecking247: (5:43:18 PM) yup ok everything is good
rednecking247: (5:43:24 PM) got it all sorted out
paintballersedge: (5:43:48 PM) ok so the body barrel tip and the reg center piece needs to be done in blue still
rednecking247: (5:43:57 PM) yes
paintballersedge: (5:44:30 PM) ok get everything done tonight
rednecking247: (5:44:44 PM) ill try if some fail tho then it will be tomorrow.
paintballersedge: (5:44:56 PM) fail?
rednecking247: (5:45:09 PM) lose connection during the run and not take dye
paintballersedge: (5:45:16 PM) ok
rednecking247: (5:45:57 PM) well im offf to shop
paintballersedge: (5:46:09 PM) k take pics
paintballersedge: (10:41:26 PM) pics?
rednecking247: (10:41:43 PM) not done
rednecking247: (10:41:54 PM) i stripped the blue parts to get a exact match
paintballersedge: (10:42:12 PM) ok get it done tomorrow
rednecking247: (10:42:19 PM) ill try
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paintballersedge: (1:38:20 PM) pics by 10 tonight
paintballersedge: (9:29:01 PM) did u get it done?
paintballersedge: (10:00:20 PM) so its 10:00
paintballersedge: (10:00:22 PM) pics
paintballersedge: (10:05:06 PM) can u even take a pic of the stripped parts at least showing uve done any work
paintballersedge: (10:20:09 PM) theft report thread coming


he was also online posting while i was trying to contact him via aim and pbn


so not only has he taken for ever, given me no real excuses, messed up my anno, and lost a part. He will not take any pics to prove he has even stripped my marker or any parts either time or that some of the parts were even done in blue the first time

so this is what i want

a FULL refund
my viking anno'd with all the parts i sent
then to be sent to DC for reassembly jarred will alert me if there is anything wrong with the anno, that the pictures i WILL GET. can not show
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paintballersedge: (11:45:36 PM) so pics ya?
rednecking247: (11:47:58 PM) sorry just got home
rednecking247: (11:48:22 PM) ill take pics of the stripped parts because that is all that is done.
paintballersedge: (11:48:27 PM) ok
paintballersedge: (11:48:35 PM) so u did no work today
rednecking247: (11:48:44 PM) nope couldn't
rednecking247: (11:48:53 PM) family stuff
rednecking247: (11:48:55 PM) same for tomrrow
rednecking247: (11:49:08 PM) if you give me your shipping info ill just send them back
paintballersedge: (11:49:21 PM) i want the anno done
rednecking247: (11:49:38 PM) I don't know when I can get to it man
paintballersedge: (11:49:57 PM) ok so i get everything back stripped with a full refund
rednecking247: (11:50:03 PM) yes
rednecking247: (11:50:09 PM) they are all prepped aswell
rednecking247: (11:50:13 PM) dust finish
paintballersedge: (11:50:30 PM) ok
rednecking247: (11:50:54 PM) send me your shipping info in a pm and please remove paypal claim
paintballersedge: (11:51:20 PM) ill pm you the info just refund the $ and the claim will close
rednecking247: (11:51:56 PM) o
rednecking247: (11:53:35 PM) hey
rednecking247: (11:53:42 PM) which option do i click on the claim
rednecking247: (11:53:47 PM) its giving me three
paintballersedge: (11:53:53 PM) they are?
rednecking247: (11:54:01 PM) i can provide prof that the item was shipped
rednecking247: (11:54:13 PM) i have not shipped the item and will refund the money
rednecking247: (11:54:39 PM) i can provide proof that i refunded the money for this trans action
paintballersedge: (11:54:47 PM) the 2nd one
rednecking247: (11:55:33 PM) alright thx
rednecking247: (11:55:52 PM) also
rednecking247: (11:56:14 PM) you have about two weeks to get the parts anno'd before you start to see pitting
paintballersedge: (11:56:23 PM) ok
paintballersedge: (12:00:05 AM) do you still have the color card i sent u?
rednecking247: (12:00:26 AM) yes
paintballersedge: (12:00:33 AM) k make sure u send that with it
rednecking247: (12:00:41 AM) itll will go back with it
paintballersedge: (12:02:37 AM) ok im going to get a good anodizers address and have u send it straight to them



THIS IS WHAT I GOT
$105 back no enough to anno the parts he ALREADY STRIPPED AND WILL NOT ANNO
i had to PAY pb4l $175 for my anno, $70 more that i had to pay out of pocket becase empire03 will not anno my parts
i also have STRIPPED PARTS that if he doesnt hurry up WILL PIT and for ever RUIN my gun
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I have also had anno deal gone wrong with Empire03
i sent him my DM7 he had the gun for 3 months and he dident even do the anno. He sent it to Mkreigs. When i received the gun back the feed neck threads were stripped as well with the reg threads. And he also lost my trigger.
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GL Heis. It looks like empire03 shouldn't be taking work...
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ridiculous, this guy needs to talk to ya
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This guy is a retard and deserves no buisness. He obvouisy has no respect for other peoples stuff. I would beat his *** if it was my gun.
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:51 PM
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:05 AM
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This guy is a retard and deserves no buisness. He obvouisy has no respect for other peoples stuff. I would beat his *** if it was my gun.
:/ Not sure How I don't have respect for people things but ok.

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I have also had anno deal gone wrong with Empire03
i sent him my DM7 he had the gun for 3 months and he dident even do the anno. He sent it to Mkreigs. When i received the gun back the feed neck threads were stripped as well with the reg threads. And he also lost my trigger.
This was almost a year ago.My power supply went out.I had no control of how your parts came out from him.Yes,The trigger was lost through these transactions I offered you a cp trigger instead.I still have yet to receive a shipping location for the feedneck lever and trigger that I still have of yours.


The problem has been solved.He received a full refund and the parts are being shipped off to another annodizer.
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Dude, you better sue his ***, or get a FULL refund back. You better not have closed the claim on paypal bro, if so, open it again, because that shuts down his ENTIRE account from anything and everything when it comnes to money transactions. He will be FORCED to make you happy then.
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yes now i just have to pay $65 more for someone to do it
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:31 AM
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For all who dont know, when a claim is opened you can ship to them post the tracking to paypal and they will close the claim in your favor when dealing with service type transactions.

Sucks that it has ended this way. Thats why you always check asking the past people about communication not just thier pics.
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This is what happens when you go the cheap route. I hope everyone is learning a lesson here.

You get what you pay for, or in the case of him you get nothing but headaches.

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there is tracking went out priority today
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