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Old 12-02-2008, 08:14 PM #1114
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All of those aspects of the game are predetermined by a coach/teamleader. individual skill and decision making are completly taken out of the game. You have someone telling you when to shoot,where to shoot, when to move, how to move. xball is way mored controlled everyone is shooting 13bps and a coach telling them what to do it takes all the surprises out of the game too
sounds like youve never played xball
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:15 PM #1115
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thanks f'ing idiots
Thanks for taking a perfectly good league and flushing it down the toilet becouse oF incompetance and ego,Thanks fro not listening to the players and forging ahead with ridiculas schemes to take paintball to tv,webcasts,stadiums etc when most people knew it wasnt ready,Thanks for now putting us as team owners and field owners in a position to completly change our way of playing and our way of doing biz.Thanks for taking away my passion and the funnest thing i do in life.Thanks for giving the psp a way to finnally kill off 7 man,Thanks for souring multible large sponsers to paintball that most likley are too burned to come back(marines,army etc GOOD JOB WAITING TO TAKE THIER MONEY FOR 2009 AND THEN FILING BK)Thanks for taking tons of money from an outside force and complelty f'ing it up to where now no new money will ever come into the sport.Thanks for ruining HB!! wow disgusting that you ruined that,I hope to god that none of you people ever come back into paintball.Your greed and ego ruined the best league i hope your proud
obviously PSP is the best league because its still around.
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:19 PM #1116
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All of those aspects of the game are predetermined by a coach/teamleader. individual skill and decision making are completly taken out of the game. You have someone telling you when to shoot,where to shoot, when to move, how to move. xball is way mored controlled everyone is shooting 13bps and a coach telling them what to do it takes all the surprises out of the game too
It's not like there is a coach for each player. What you're describing just doesn't happen for all players on the field.
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:25 PM #1117
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true theres not a coach for every player but a well stacked team has plenty of coaches and other staff/players to lend a hand to a teamate still in play. For the snake players ive seen 2 or 3 coaches talking to them once but then again it depends on the team.
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:30 PM #1118
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I'm not saying coaching doesn't play a big factor for successful teams but the idea that each individual player does not need to know what is going on in the game because someone will tell them is a ridiculous notion.
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:30 PM #1119
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All of those aspects of the game are predetermined by a coach/teamleader. individual skill and decision making are completly taken out of the game. You have someone telling you when to shoot,where to shoot, when to move, how to move. xball is way mored controlled everyone is shooting 13bps and a coach telling them what to do it takes all the surprises out of the game too

HAHAHHAA I am sure the Snake side player can really hear their coaches enough to be able to direct him to the people to shoot. Not to mention the coach couldn't even see the same thing.

Sillyhooligans, Coaches aren't even allowed on the snake side. Sure as long as they are not rostered they can but whatever, they are like 5 feet from the net.

What about the people in the center of the field? Are they getting coached personally?
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:40 PM #1120
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Wow you are so wrong. I have played both series and have placed several times in both leagues. Xball shows the true skill a player and teams have. You have to change your strategy after every point and only have 2 minutes to do so instead of an hour. You have to be physically conditioned. You have to be able to block out any outside distractions and noise of spectators. You have to be able to be fast and come up with creative ways of getting out wide instead of walking to a corner like nppl. The list goes on and on of what skills xball demands that 7 man doesn't. Xball is what paintball needs to be considered a sport.





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Old 12-02-2008, 08:43 PM #1121
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Wow you are so wrong. I have played both series and have placed several times in both leagues. Xball shows the true skill a player and teams have. You have to change your strategy after every point and only have 2 minutes to do so instead of an hour. You have to be physically conditioned. You have to be able to block out any outside distractions and noise of spectators. You have to be able to be fast and come up with creative ways of getting out wide instead of walking to a corner like nppl. The list goes on and on of what skills xball demands that 7 man doesn't. Xball is what paintball needs to be considered a sport.
Best post of the thread.
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:44 PM #1122
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killawat, if yo uwere here id buy you a drink cause you hit the ****in nail on the head with yoru statement on why xball is better
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:46 PM #1123
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:46 PM #1124
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If the psp was smart the would by the NPPL name and make some tweaks to how they run stuff. Because the National Professional Paintball league is a way better name than Paintball Sports Promotions.

Plus this is good for paintball. You cant have mutiple formats if we ever want our sport to get big.

There is only one format for soccer, basketball, baseball and so on...

Look at the positives that come out of this.
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:46 PM #1125
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XBALL vs 7 Man NPPL

You need to ask yourself first off is one team dominating in both formats? I don't beleive so. So, then there is a big difference between the 2 formats. Teams that play PSP don't do very well in 7 man NPPL and vice versa. So, with that data point it obvious that there must be something that is causing teams to play better in one specific format. It could be Coaching, Ramping, the fact that you only need to fire 3 times then hold trigger to go into full auto 13 bps. tough to figure out though

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Old 12-02-2008, 08:47 PM #1126
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:48 PM #1127
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You need to ask yourself first off is one team dominating in both formats? I don't beleive so. So, then there is a big difference between the 2 formats. Teams that play PSP don't do very well in 7 man NPPL and vice versa. So, with that data point it obvious that there must be something that is causing teams to play better in one specific format. It could be Coaching, Ramping, the fact that you only need to fire 3 times then hold trigger to go into full auto 13 bps. tough to figure out though

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Maybe I am wrong, but the Ironmen(NXL Champs?) are in the top 4 of the NPPL? The only reason they didn't win NPPL was because they came in dead last in San Diego.
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:48 PM #1128
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:50 PM #1129
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Maybe I am wrong, but the Ironmen(NXL Champs?) are in the top 4 of the NPPL for? The only reason they didn't win NPPL was because they came in dead last in San Diego.
Hmmm i think you got it the reason they didnt win was because they came in dead last in San Diego. Wierd tough to figure out.

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Old 12-02-2008, 08:51 PM #1130
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You need to ask yourself first off is one team dominating in both formats? I don't beleive so. So, then there is a big difference between the 2 formats. Teams that play PSP don't do very well in 7 man NPPL and vice versa. So, with that data point it obvious that there must be something that is causing teams to play better in one specific format. It could be Coaching, Ramping, the fact that you only need to fire 3 times then hold trigger to go into full auto 13 bps. tough to figure out though

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I probably have been under a rock for a couple years,but have you ever heard of a team called DYNASTY?
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:53 PM #1131
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Hmmm i think you got it the reason they didnt win was because they came in dead last in San Diego. Wierd tough to figure out.

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However, they placed well consistently. One bad event =/= bad at the format.

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Old 12-02-2008, 08:55 PM #1132
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Hmmm i think you got it the reason they didnt win was because they came in dead last in San Diego. Wierd tough to figure out.

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It's more likely that the team had an off event, which happens, than it is that the formats are so different that the team couldn't play the format. Seeing how they were leading the league before the last event. Maybe they just forgot to how to play 7 man? Good ****ing joke.

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Old 12-02-2008, 08:56 PM #1133
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hehe, guess the economy really does affect paintball

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Old 12-02-2008, 08:57 PM #1134
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how about PSP start thinking about how they will be able to accomodate professional players with a decent salary with this higher income.
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