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Old 12-01-2008, 03:08 PM #274
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It was bound to happen sometime, to have two national leagues is not something that you see often and for good reason.

On the bright side of things, now sponsors will only have to focus on one league which means more money towards that league, which can be used to have even larger prizes and events. Pushing paintball closer to being something that one day hopefully you can actually make a real living off playing. But that's just the way I look at it.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:09 PM #275
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So is this effective immediatly?

are there going to be any '09 events like NPPL HB or XPSL Bako?
your guess is as good as the rest of ours.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:09 PM #276
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you said it yourself, HALF. that means LESS pro teams play in the NXL.
Some teams play solely NXL?
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:09 PM #277
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Best comment so far.


But seriously... I was really looking forward to see the 'Canes get a chance to win the series next year. I was also looking forward to seeing how things work out in the Pro league with three franchises having two teams each. Would've been very interesting.

Chris' argument about it being very difficult / impossible for anyone to pick up the NPPL name and get something started for next year seems likely to me. I'm sure that someone will either take the XPSL name and run with it or setup a competitor, though.

I wonder what will happen to 7man in the long run. If the NPPL remains dissolved next year and it doesn't appear that a competitive national 7man league will emerge from the ashes, then what will happen to local 7man leagues? Does 7man die if the NPPL dies?
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:09 PM #278
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:09 PM #279
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The general consensus is that leagues need to have regional divisions. Take the CXBL/AXBL for example, best run series I have ever played in, and im sure they are making profits well above expectations.

Regional divisions would not only promote local teams to play , thus more participation, but the opportunity for national events as stated.

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Old 12-01-2008, 03:10 PM #280
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You dont seem to understand my analogy. What im saying is, that it just shows how weak this sport is, if we are dropping 3 leagues.

I just cant believe that he said that it was good news.
I completely understand what you're saying, and it makes little sense.

Your analogy to the NBA does NOT work, because there is not another competing, professional basketball league.

It's called competition. They aren't failing due to a dwindling market in paintball. They are failing because of VERY poor business decisions, a dying format, and general competition from professional league #2.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:10 PM #281
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i dont think 7 man would die if nppl, other local leagues will keep it going
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LiM-O,

Again - you need to step back and look at the big picture. You're not the only one (or only state) affected by this. As an example, paintball is important to me - in fact, it's my livelihood - I'm a field owner.

You will still have all the local fields to play at. You'll still have all the local events to play in. And I'm confident that if the demand is there someone will carry-on/recreate the regional events too (XPSL). As for National events - if you want to, you can fly out the NJ and play a GPL, fly to the Carolinas and play in a CFOA, etc.. There are still many options out that will allow you to enjoy this great sport.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:10 PM #283
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There is no way that PSP runs 7-man and XBall, for one very simple reason:

7-man: 180x100
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Can't use the same fields, so can't run both formats.

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Dont know if someone else had this idea but,

NPPL= 18000 sq ft. of playing area
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So why couldn't you run a 7 seven man game on a PSP sized field if there is more field being played on?
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:11 PM #284
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As bad as this is, PSP is where the money is, it is where all the trade shows are held, and they are just much more competitive style of play overall.

Better the NPPL goes out then PSP, but it is still bad news none the less.
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It was bound to happen sometime, to have two national leagues is not something that you see often and for good reason.

On the bright side of things, now sponsors will only have to focus on one league which means more money towards that league, which can be used to have even larger prizes and events. Pushing paintball closer to being something that one day hopefully you can actually make a real living off playing. But that's just the way I look at it.
true this. now there will be one league/format and it will help paintball in the mainstream.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:12 PM #286
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I completely understand what you're saying, and it makes little sense.

Your analogy to the NBA does NOT work, because there is not another competing, professional basketball league.

It's called competition. They aren't failing due to a dwindling market in paintball. They are failing because of VERY poor business decisions, a dying format, and general competition from professional league #2.
alright, ill admit, the NBA analogy doesnt work
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:13 PM #287
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well if 7man won't be "bought" by anyone according to Mr. Chris Rael and what not, there will be a demand. it only makes sense it will simply shift over to Xball if no one picks up where the XPSL and NPPL left off.

thus the PSP will realize that they can possibly generate more revenue by having possibly 2 west coast events, instead of 3 in the East...

either way, its not unreasonable to ask for any events on the west coast cause you and i, and everybody else knows that there is a demand for tournament paintball in CA - its just that according to a lot of people, CA is a really expensive state to be running events at.
Like I said, until the numbers are there, the PSP has no reason to gamble their potential profits by hosting a PSP event in a 7-man state and making the entire league waste more money on plane tickets.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:14 PM #288
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ok so you played in more than i thought big deal,the thing is,your acting like paintball is over for you and all of CA, theres so many other leagues that you can play in,considering that youve played in 7 good sized events this year you would think you would switch over to another one to keep playing


What he is saying is that he cant afford to be flying across the country to play, so he cant play national events for a while now.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:15 PM #289
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GREAT IDEA,have a series for each area,then at the end of the season take the best from each division and send them to cup


or the top 5 etc. doesnt have to be the 1st place team
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Anyone who says that it is bad you don't really understand paintball, where it's been and where it's going.

For there two be 1 league it legitimizes the sport. How many national Pro Basketball leagues are there besides the NBA?

Does anyone remember prior to 2003? Probably not cause you probably didn't play back then nor did you know what tournament paintball was. The sport evolved from out of the woods, out of hyper and into airball all within one league. The game got faster as one league and the competition got better as one league.

It makes it easier on teams that played both leagues. You concentrate on one format and that's it.

The 7man NPPL did not turn a profit in all of its years in operation. They thought they could just be the cooler league with the glitz and glamor and hopefully people would be attracted to that. In the end hosting tournaments at national stadiums did nothing but dig the hole deeper.

Face it the better league has survived. If it didn't then why is one bankrupt.

The other leagues aren't really important. What ever happened to just local tournaments?


THAT BEING SAID PSP BRING BACK 10man
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:16 PM #291
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GREAT IDEA,have a series for each area,then at the end of the season take the best from each division and send them to cup

yup, thats hw every other amatuer(non pro) sport in the country does it..be it baseball, soccer, football, basketball...etc .funny thing is usually the seson ending national championship is at Disney WWoS. lol...why couldnt paintball follow suit
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so wait, will HB be their last event then? or is it done for at CC?

cuz i know a few companies planning on releasing products at HB.... so what happens to them now?
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affordability has always been an issue with National events - it's one of the main reasons you see teams come and go. You don't always see the same teams event after event. I'd love to play every event out there, but you have to pick and choose based on what you can afford.
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Anyone who says that it is bad you don't really understand paintball, where it's been and where it's going.

For there two be 1 league it legitimizes the sport. How many national Pro Basketball leagues are there besides the NBA?

Does anyone remember post 2003? Probably not cause you probably didn't play back then nor did you know what tournament paintball was. The sport evolved from out of the woods, out of hyper and into airball all within one league. The game got faster as one league and the competition got better as one league.

It makes it easier on teams that played both leagues. You concentrate on one format and that's it.

The 7man NPPL did not turn a profit in all of its years in operation. They thought they could just be the cooler league with the glitz and glamor and hopefully people would be attracted to that. In the end hosting tournaments at national stadiums did nothing but dig the hole deeper.

Face it the better league has survived. If it didn't then why is one bankrupt.

The other leagues aren't really important. What ever happened to just local tournaments?


THAT BEING SAID PSP BRING BACK 10man

Agree, but no 10 man. And local tournies are still everywhere (at least where i live).
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