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Old 10-19-2008, 04:27 PM #1
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Bore size (for the people who have received their Geo)

In the manual it says that bore size will differ between Geo's, so now I'm asking (out of curiosity) what bore sizes you people have got? I know PE generally goes for bigger bore sizes than most companys (.693 on Ego).
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:58 PM #2
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I have paged though the online manual and have not been able to find this. They should all come in .693. The bore size should also be labeled just below the threads on your barrel.
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Old 10-19-2008, 05:35 PM #3
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mine came with .693.

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Old 10-19-2008, 05:37 PM #5
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only the SL's and the Origin's have the kit, as far as i know anyways.
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:02 PM #6
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I have paged though the online manual and have not been able to find this. They should all come in .693. The bore size should also be labeled just below the threads on your barrel.
This is what it says in the manual

"Eclipse Shaft 3 Barrel

NOTE: The bore size of your Shaft 3 may vary
according to the model of Geo you have."
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Probaly PL verisons have .695 Barrels. Pro's don't want to break paint.
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Old 10-19-2008, 08:06 PM #8
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This is what it says in the manual

"Eclipse Shaft 3 Barrel

NOTE: The bore size of your Shaft 3 may vary
according to the model of Geo you have."
Hm I am not sure then. Mine is in the mail, so hopefully its a .693
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:35 PM #9
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Probaly PL verisons have .695 Barrels. Pro's don't want to break paint.
idk why so big though. i use a .689 with my sl8r and it shoots ball on ball and ive never broken a ball.
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idk why so big though. i use a .689 with my sl8r and it shoots ball on ball and ive never broken a ball.
Agreed...I guess for ballers in high humidity areas....
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idk why so big though. i use a .689 with my sl8r and it shoots ball on ball and ive never broken a ball.
.689 is more than adequate for the average paintball. The extra buffer gives you a little buffer for mishapen paint, expanded paint, and will also occasionally help a slightly damaged ball leave the barrel without fully breaking. With todays paint, .689 is more than sufficient most of the time.
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Every Ego had a .693 back or barrel in the box since they are available back in 2004.

Separate Shaft 3 backs should be available in the near future.

A larger back has not as much influence on a open bolt system like it does with closed bolt systems.
Sure, its always great to have the best matching barrel to the currently used paint. But you can play with a .693 barrel just about any paint without having to buy a new barrel to even start playing.
A lot of people play tournaments with the stock barrel having great success with it.
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Old 10-20-2008, 12:06 PM #13
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On the online spec description it lists the barrel as .693 stock as well. I think it is more than safe to say your barrel is going to be .693 if you order one up. I think the note in the manual may just be a buffer for pl versions or something along those lines.
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I wish PE would stop doing this. I've never bought paint that matched the stock .693 back. Its way too big for any paint I've ever shot and just produces horrible consistancy over the chronograph. It's useless junk. I just don't see the need.
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I wish PE would stop doing this. I've never bought paint that matched the stock .693 back. Its way too big for any paint I've ever shot and just produces horrible consistancy over the chronograph. It's useless junk. I just don't see the need.
The idea is to have it way to big for any paint so that any mishapen, crappy, or enlarged paint won't break. It is actually a really good idea to provide a .693 size bore stock. Almost anyone who puts a lot of paint through there marker will tell you that overboring enormously reduces the risk of breaking paint. There have even been recent arguments that suggest overboring can actually improve consistency or it is suggested that it does not have as big of a role on consitency as previously thought. Either way, I feel it is a good idea.
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I wish PE would stop doing this. I've never bought paint that matched the stock .693 back. Its way too big for any paint I've ever shot and just produces horrible consistancy over the chronograph. It's useless junk. I just don't see the need.
idk about you..ive had great consistency with .693 back.
dont feed 20$ paint in a .693 back though. its not gonna be consistent.
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idk about you..ive had great consistency with .693 back.
dont feed 20$ paint in a .693 back though. its not gonna be consistent.
$20 paint will most likely never be consistent.
Crap does not get better with a thight barrel.
But it will shoot much better if its slightly over bored
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idk about you..ive had great consistency with .693 back.

dont feed 20$ paint in a .693 back though. its not gonna be consistent.
Why don't you know about me? I've already said that the paint I shoot is way too small for it and causes inconsistancy. Can you not read?

Where did I say I was shooting crap paint? Oh, that's right, I didn't.

I shot X-ball gold at the last CFOA event and it was falling through my .689 ultralite back, and it was in the high 80's. Most of the paint I shoot does. Again, why on earth would I need a .693 back when all the paint I shoot is already over-bored with a .689?

I understand that it isn't ideal to have a tight fit when matching paint to barrel, but the .693 seems overkill. My Ego turned into a different marker the day I started using smaller backs.
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Why don't you know about me? I've already said that the paint I shoot is way too small for it and causes inconsistancy. Can you not read?

Where did I say I was shooting crap paint? Oh, that's right, I didn't.

I shot X-ball gold at the last CFOA event and it was falling through my .689 ultralite back, and it was in the high 80's. Most of the paint I shoot does. Again, why on earth would I need a .693 back when all the paint I shoot is already over-bored with a .689?

I understand that it isn't ideal to have a tight fit when matching paint to barrel, but the .693 seems overkill. My Ego turned into a different marker the day I started using smaller backs.

maybe its so that it can help everyone like someone posted previously. in the summer playing outdoor where i live, it gets ****ing humid and that paint can swell right up and get soo deformd itll jam anyones loader. with the .693 back we dont have to worry about our barrels spewing fill everywhere.

cockerpunk did some research on the topic and his debate makes sence. by over boring consistency can be improved because the paint will consistently not fit snuggly in the barrel.
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maybe its so that it can help everyone like someone posted previously. in the summer playing outdoor where i live, it gets ****ing humid and that paint can swell right up and get soo deformd itll jam anyones loader. with the .693 back we dont have to worry about our barrels spewing fill everywhere.

cockerpunk did some research on the topic and his debate makes sence. by over boring consistency can be improved because the paint will consistently not fit snuggly in the barrel.
Yes, I understand that over-boring is the way to go. I've said this three times now. I never disagreed. My point, which some wanted to argue, is that I've never needed a back that big to over-bore the paint I use. I live in West Virginia, and its like a rain forest here in the summer time. I can't imagine much worse humidity. My .693 back is TOO big, even then. It creates consistency issues and poor accuracy with all price ranges of paint we have at the field from white box to X-ball gold. I don't know anyone that uses a back this size. I would love to see the paint that barrel back properly accommodates. It must be the crap paint of which you are all speaking.
Oh, by the way, do you know it isn't wise to store your paint in the sun?
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$20 paint will most likely never be consistent.
Crap does not get better with a thight barrel.
But it will shoot much better if its slightly over bored
that's right, it doesn't matter how good your paint to bore match is if you're using cheap paint. I've experienced this first hand on a scenario game and I went thru all my backs, sleeves, different barrel kits, lengths, tip, markers, you name it. if it's cheap and dimpled it will not be accurate and consistent. It was funny because I remember some kids making fun of guys with $1000 markers like ego 8, angel fly and dm9 - thinking it's a waste of money and their marker is crap but in reality it's just the paint we were shooting that day.
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