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Old 10-18-2008, 09:35 PM #1
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Rail Efficency Tips?

I gots me a UL'd Virtue'd Rail stock bolt I can list ups if interested but I dont think it is really necessary anyways, I just shot it yesterday for the first time in 6+ months and I noticed I only got 5-6 pods. Like I have just stated I have not put some paint through her in 6+ months because of money issues and not having the $ to play so I really dont know if this is normal? Could someone help a brotha out please .

Also if anyone has this same setup, just for the hell of it I will post all the ups just to get it out of the way and to brag . But if you have the same setup please tell me what I should lower my dwell to so I can squeeze a little more air out of this beast.


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On Virtue DM6 Board it was at stock dwell setting 18 and I lowered it to 12 but it started leaking so I put it up to 15 could someone please tell me how much more air will be saved by lowering it down 3 milliseconds?

I am always the one helping people here on pbn but I am need of some assistance and I will really appreciate it. Even if you dont help me that much I will still appreciate the effort thank you for looking.

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Old 10-18-2008, 10:19 PM #2
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the stock dwell for the Rail is 25. lowering your dwell won't make much of a difference for air efficiency. it also depends on your tank size. i get about 1100 on my 68/4500. my rail has been shooting since june of 07. aftermarket bolts are hits and misses. alot of people with the techt bolt or the orange bolt average of one extra pod. also, rails are known to be air hogs. so its normal if you only get that much paint out of your tank. just be happy with all day air.
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:26 PM #3
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yea I was not so sure I have not played in a while no $ so I did not really know what to expect. I think i got about 700 maybe idk for sure I did not keep a exact count.

thanks for the help man appreciate it. And one more question anyway I can get my baby to shoot a little smoother (Now I know someone will say I am weak) My arms are the size of baseballs I am deffinetly not weak I can rock my gun with np but I noticed yesterday that she was kickin' pretty bad. Any help with this. (I think she was shooting around 285+) Last place I played was a field in michigan called lonewolf and you can't shoot over 285.
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:32 PM #4
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the thing with rails is that there is no LPR like the DMs and PMs. i would suggest relubing your bolt with a slicker lube like hater sauce v2. other than that there isn't really much you can do to reduce kick. the Rail has an unbalanced spool with no lpr, thus more kick.
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Old 10-18-2008, 11:58 PM #5
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Lube with hater sauce and try to drop your dwell a few milliseconds. Around 22ms or so.

And just give the reg time to break in, other than that with no lpr the gun is hard to tune.
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Old 10-19-2008, 01:02 AM #6
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I use stock dwell on mine with stock grip and stock board and I can get a Halo and 6 pods out of it running a 68/45 tank.

The PMR is notorious for being a gas hog, but most fields do all day air, so it really shouldn't be an issue. If you run out of air in one game with a 68/45 on a PMR, you should probably work on your aim
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Old 10-19-2008, 10:53 AM #7
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on the UL frame virtue board stock dwell setting is 18 so when I get some hatersauce should I lower it to 15.

And this baby is broken in I have played with her countless times. But thanks for the help guys I really appreciate it. And yes I knew when I asked the question about there being less kick I knew there would probably not be a solution idk maybe I just have to get used to her again its been a while
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:21 AM #8
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No, the reason the stock dwell on the UL frame is 18 is because the board in it is meant for PM's and DM's. Dye did not want to make a new manual, so they just gave you the PM5,6,7/DM4,5 manual

You have to lower it from the PMR's stock dwell, which is 25.
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:21 AM #9
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the virtue board has the dwell at 18 because that board is for the DM6/7/8. their stock dwell is at 18. the stock dwell for the PMR is 25. virtue made the board only for the DM6/7/8 as the board only has connections for the wired eyes. first put the dwell back to 25 and work your way down until you get a slight dropoff.
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:23 AM #10
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o ok It seemed to shoot fine at 18 but I will try this when I get some more air. thanks guys appreciate the assistance.
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