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Old 10-19-2008, 04:37 PM #22
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Can't have one without the other.

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Because if you could, the great bureaucracy would have already shown them the door.
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Old 10-20-2008, 12:59 AM #23
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The military cannot function without either, all jobs in the military are essential.

But, keep in mind that while all of the military sacrifices and serves through hard work, sweat, and even tears, combat arms regularly pay with their blood and sometimes their life.

I think it's more of a respect issue on both sides.
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:07 AM #24
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I can tell you that true grunts appreciate the support folks who're out there doing the job. Support is not necessarily a pogue.

The pogues are the CSMs who force troops to wear reflective belts in a combat zone... who enforce 5mph speed limits, and who yell at grunts who've just come back in the wire with a couple of days of scruff before they get a chance to SS&S.
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:51 AM #25
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that is the truth. In the Marine Corps EVERY MOS is a support MOS for the 0311. Even the other 03's they are all doing it for those butt plates out there. Even my MOS as an 0341 I'm there to give indirect fire support for the 0311's even when I was out there with them acting as an 11. My plt Wpns Plt. was acting as 4th Plt.
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Old 10-21-2008, 03:43 PM #26
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I never called them unintelligent.... where in my post does it say that?
i dont remember if i was talking about your post. i might have been. but most people think that being a grunt is a job for the people who barely passed HS and are dumb. which is bull****. its all personality and what your interested in.
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Old 10-21-2008, 04:52 PM #27
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I can tell you that true grunts appreciate the support folks who're out there doing the job. Support is not necessarily a pogue.

The pogues are the CSMs who force troops to wear reflective belts in a combat zone... who enforce 5mph speed limits, and who yell at grunts who've just come back in the wire with a couple of days of scruff before they get a chance to SS&S.
Ha **** those guys, I used to walk around my FOB with my weapon hot in '03

Had an old SGTMAJ try and say something, looked at him and told him to stand down, about two hours later my FOB got attacked bet he felt like a *******
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Old 10-21-2008, 04:56 PM #28
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I always wonder how SMaj's feel when a 24 year old 2nd LT tells him to stand down.
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:07 PM #29
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I always wonder how SMaj's feel when a 24 year old 2nd LT tells him to stand down.
I was 25 at the time and he looked PISSED
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I was assuming you were 24.


Id be damn pissed too. Just imagine that.


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Old 10-21-2008, 05:18 PM #31
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I was assuming you were 24.


Id be damn pissed too. Just imagine that.


'Damn whippersnapper'.
Great story with the same premise just the other way around

My bro is a recon marine right?

So his team rolls onto the FOB after doing some Op and his weapon(s) are still hot, 2nd LT walks up to him and goes, you need to safety that weapon marine.

My brothers response *flips off the LT says this is my safety* then proceeds to say "You can tell me to safety my weapon the day you get out of the FOB and use yours Sir".

Needless to say he got in DEEP **** for that one.... He's 36 and still a SSG
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Your brother is a ****ing crazy man, and Id love to meet him.


I wonder how many people have said 'this is my safety' while crooking a finger, like the delta op did in BH down.

On that note, a marine recruiter contacted me today, and asked me if i was intrested in force recon. wtf?
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Im an armorer in the marine corps. when i was in iraq i went out on patrols i got attached to other units. i was the whore of the battalion pretty much. ive seen combat yet dont have a CAR. i beat the **** out of a Cpl who was admin of all thing who tried to talk **** to me about my rife being dirty. now i know i have a "POG" mos but ive gotten the respect of grunts and that in o it self makes me not a "POG"
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:10 PM #34
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Great story with the same premise just the other way around

My bro is a recon marine right?

So his team rolls onto the FOB after doing some Op and his weapon(s) are still hot, 2nd LT walks up to him and goes, you need to safety that weapon marine.

My brothers response *flips off the LT says this is my safety* then proceeds to say "You can tell me to safety my weapon the day you get out of the FOB and use yours Sir".

Needless to say he got in DEEP **** for that one.... He's 36 and still a SSG
that reminds me of the scene from blackhawk down with hoot.
just for clarification his real name was Norman Hooten. so don't flame me saying i ****ed up the names with the characters names again. (my bad)


and jesus jack your family is hard****ingcore, your a ranger your dad was a green beret/delta and your bro is recon.. id hate to see the dude that tries to rob your house...
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Old 10-21-2008, 07:40 PM #35
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that reminds me of the scene from blackhawk down with hoot.
just for clarification his real name was Norman Hooten. so don't flame me saying i ****ed up the names with the characters names again. (my bad)


and jesus jack your family is hard****ingcore, your a ranger your dad was a green beret/delta and your bro is recon.. id hate to see the dude that tries to rob your house...
Lawl he told me that's where he got the idea, and he said it was totally worth it to see the look on that LTs face

I like to think my family has a nice line of military service, but hey just a good gene pool I guess
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:11 PM #36
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:21 PM #40
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