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Old 07-30-2013, 06:13 AM #1
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Agitator versus forcefed

I'm going to get back into pb after a 4 year absence and I have decided on going with a mech cocker since that's what I had been using before I took a break. I can't decide on whether I should pick up a force fed hopper or try to find a good agitator hopper. One thing I'm worried about is weight and whether it'll imbalance the gun. I plan on finding a half block either used or go big and buy an Empire Resurrection and pick up a 48/45. As far as hoppers go I will look into used since I can't find new aggis and there are tons of good deals on force fed hoppers.
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Old 07-30-2013, 11:10 AM #2
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Get a good Revi and call it a day. I only use them on my mechs and never have a problem. Electro is a different story, but a mech will be happy on a aggi.
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:38 PM #3
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I see Viewloader is no longer in existence and it Lola like JT is the new name stamped on the side, is the quality still somewhat good or should I look elsewhere?
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:16 PM #4
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Youre going to have to find them used. $20 will get you a nice 9v revvi.
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:37 PM #5
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still pretty easy to find a revy, i use one on my trilogy and it works great. i think empire makes an agitating loader too.
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Old 08-19-2013, 08:47 PM #6
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:04 PM #7
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I see Viewloader is no longer in existence and it Lola like JT is the new name stamped on the side, is the quality still somewhat good or should I look elsewhere?
Thats because Viewloader was bought out by JT, then JT was bought out by Kee Action Sports who owns BT, Empire and a whole bunch of other companies, including WGP.

The JT Revy is the same as the Revy x board.
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:24 AM #8
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If you're going to jump into a Resurrection (HIGHLY recommended, I love mine!), you'll be able to run a modern force fed hopper. That goes for any Cocker running dual ball detents. I don't think I'd put my Prophecy onto my 2k2 Cocker, though.

As a point of reference, I did outshoot my Reloader 2 with fresh batteries with my Resurrection. It was the strangest thing, I've never really been that fast on the trigger, but it's a quick gun. I don't know if the hopper bobbled a ball somewhere or what, but I wound up with a couple air shots.
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:35 AM #9
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I run a rotor on my mech cockers with no issues. As long as the detent isn't junk and the stack tension isn't high (I run stock settings fine), you will not double feed. My reasons for running the rotor are simple... I love old school revies, but the rotor is really convenient.
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*I've had a single jam over the years due to crappy paint
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Old 08-21-2013, 11:29 AM #10
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Ive run my HaloToo on my mech STO with out any double feeding issues. I prefer the Revvi to that though for mechs. Its a smaller, lighter hopper and keeps up with a mech just fine.
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Old 08-21-2013, 02:53 PM #11
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spend the little extra money on a force feed loader. since it's pb we all end up upgrading later and if you decide to get into electro you will have a loader ready for higher bps. if you are only going to shoot a mech, revi are great loaders.
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Old 08-24-2013, 07:15 PM #12
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With the inconsistent rate of fire of shooting mech, it's not a bad idea to go force feed if you can swing it.
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Old 02-07-2014, 09:16 AM #13
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Kinda why I went with a Res AC... Fits the hoppers I have now. Rotors, Z2, and Spires.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:08 PM #14
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If you're going to jump into a Resurrection (HIGHLY recommended, I love mine!), you'll be able to run a modern force fed hopper. That goes for any Cocker running dual ball detents. I don't think I'd put my Prophecy onto my 2k2 Cocker, though.

As a point of reference, I did outshoot my Reloader 2 with fresh batteries with my Resurrection. It was the strangest thing, I've never really been that fast on the trigger, but it's a quick gun. I don't know if the hopper bobbled a ball somewhere or what, but I wound up with a couple air shots.
I had to upgrade to a Halo force fed as well. My mech cocker outshoots by revvi with xboard and fresh batteries too. I thought for a while my gun as acting up...then i realized the mech cocker with bomb 3way and single swing trigger was outshooting the hopper. Only downfall is that the Halo is much heavier and larger than the revvi. Its ok for me becuase I MUCH rather have the halo for shot consistency than outshoot a revvi and get pissed!
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:35 AM #15
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:47 AM #16
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I've got like 5 Revs and on a mechanical cocker or pump that's what I'll run 99.9% of the time. I do have a couple Rotors but honestly I probably won't be running them on any of my cockers, maybe on my Resurrection but I prefer the look & feel of the Rev.
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:23 PM #17
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I out shot all my Revi's on my Resurrection. After I put a Rotor on, no issues at all.
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:31 AM #18
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Here's the new release of the Revvy:
http://www.ansgear.com/JT_Revolution...oaderblack.htm

P.S. I find it very hard to believe you guys are shooting over 12 bps with your Empire cockers. That's what a 12v Revvy feeds at.
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Old 09-10-2014, 02:43 AM #19
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Here's the new release of the Revvy:
http://www.ansgear.com/JT_Revolution...oaderblack.htm

P.S. I find it very hard to believe you guys are shooting over 12 bps with your Empire cockers. That's what a 12v Revvy feeds at.
Not consistently. It peaks at 12 bps, the average bps is 8-10 bps ), with peaks up to 12. The old 12v Revvy from Viewloader was the same way and there are tests that back this info up.

btw read it again it says "UP TO" 12 bps not it feeds 12 bps.

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Old 09-10-2014, 09:27 AM #20
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I've been using my Pinokio Speed on my Res.....GREAT combo.
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I did outshoot my Reloader 2 with fresh batteries with my Resurrection. It was the strangest thing, I've never really been that fast on the trigger, but it's a quick gun. I don't know if the hopper bobbled a ball somewhere or what, but I wound up with a couple air shots.
Yeah, I've done that a couple of times too.... And then I remembered to turn the hopper on...


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I've been using my Pinokio Speed on my Res.....GREAT combo.
I second the Pinokio Speed. It's much lighter than my Rotor, feeds flawlessly in my ACR, and with the feed neck being so far back, it balances nicely a little further forward. I compared it to the Rotor and even though it looks like it sits higher, it is exactly the same height. The only problem I have had is twice I have taken a paintball hit into the speed feed because it sits up higher.
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