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Old 09-23-2008, 08:19 AM #1
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GC PB body bolt question

The question i have is:
Are there any bolts out there that are better then the stock bolt with this body? I know that the L7 is the same style, but is it any better, or are you just paying for the name? Also is the blow forward style bolt better then the typical ion bolt style? If so/not please explain why?

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Old 09-23-2008, 08:30 AM #2
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Andy will be able to give you his run down.... i asked the same thing of him a month or so back, but no longer have his reply in my inbox.
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Old 09-23-2008, 04:56 PM #3
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Sounds good....who is Andy btw? (username?)

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EDIT: nvm.....i just saw your picture in the thread, lmao. YDNA
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:10 AM #4
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Sorry, it was raining and I had an unbella...

I've never used (or serviced) a GC body so I don't know much about them, specifically the parts that are compatible with them and those that aren't. I thought they came with a s1v3 type bolt but it sounds like you're saying they come with a tailless system instead. If that's the case then there wouldn't be much reason to switch to anything else unless you wanted to take advantage of the hollowpoint's airflow differences.
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Sorry, it was raining and I had an unbella...

I've never used (or serviced) a GC body so I don't know much about them, specifically the parts that are compatible with them and those that aren't. I thought they came with a s1v3 type bolt but it sounds like you're saying they come with a tailless system instead. If that's the case then there wouldn't be much reason to switch to anything else unless you wanted to take advantage of the hollowpoint's airflow differences.
And switching to a HP has proven to be a pretty interesting thing for me. For a HP bolt in the gcpb body you'll need a 5.1 back cap because it has the hole in the back of it. That 5.1 cap is not compatible with the gcpb firing insert unless you make sure to buy it from gcpb because he milled them slightly to be compatible. As for the rest I'm still in the process of getting mine to work
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And switching to a HP has proven to be a pretty interesting thing for me. For a HP bolt in the gcpb body you'll need a 5.1 back cap because it has the hole in the back of it. That 5.1 cap is not compatible with the gcpb firing insert unless you make sure to buy it from gcpb because he milled them slightly to be compatible. As for the rest I'm still in the process of getting mine to work
Yeah, i wanted to put an l7 with my gcpb cap and 5.1 can. Didn't work too hot.
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:41 PM #8
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yea... i have no idea why they changed the size of the can any, but w/e i guess
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Old 09-24-2008, 05:03 PM #9
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Your mention the HP's airflow difference...by that do you mean its more efficient? If so, does anyone know how much (roughly). And as far as kick from the bolt....am i better with the tail-less or is a HP better?
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well the HP is less air effecint but it will get less kick. The air flow is more consitant and well balanced in the HP. I dont now the air flow of the GCPB bolt but it looks similar to the l7. With the l7 the airflow is all over the place. So, more consitant air flow= HP less price= bolt you have
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:17 PM #11
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How do you figure the HP is less efficient than the L7?
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that is what OA has said before, also alot of other people
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:47 PM #13
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well the HP is less air effecint but it will get less kick. The air flow is more consitant and well balanced in the HP. I dont now the air flow of the GCPB bolt but it looks similar to the l7. With the l7 the airflow is all over the place. So, more consitant air flow= HP less price= bolt you have
The HP is not going to be less efficient. Actually since both the HP an L7/gcpb bolt operate similarly as they all have a constant airflow into the firing chamber that it's going to be up to the user to have good settings on their board. The HP's air flow characteristics are much better in the sense that there is a lot less turbulance due to the bolt not being attached to a center point. Personally I know from what ydna has told me that the techt series of bolts have very poor airflow characteristics, but as he put doesn't know about the gcpb bolt though.

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that is what OA has said before, also alot of other people
I think you're confused. I've said that statement for the HP vs 2 tail oring bolts such as the L6, but never the L7
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:50 PM #14
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Ha. Think you guys have it rough? Try using an HP in the Stage 5 original. Built in firing can, not like the 5.1. There's a bolt 'holder' piece, but it doesn't work with the HP or L7. I can get a 5.1 back cap and use TechT's adapter, but no go on the HP.
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o woops, sorries. I do know the HP has better airflow than the l7 cause andy made a comment about it
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:51 PM #16
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Ha. Think you guys have it rough? Try using an HP in the Stage 5 original. Built in firing can, not like the 5.1. There's a bolt 'holder' piece, but it doesn't work with the HP or L7. I can get a 5.1 back cap and use TechT's adapter, but no go on the HP.
I was wondering how that worked for you as I posted hear earlier today. That blows
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I was wondering how that worked for you as I posted hear earlier today. That blows
he has posted this in every single thread dealing with HP bolts or s5
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:57 PM #18
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I have a GCPB body and I can't get the damn thing to shoot over 260 with the included bolt, or a firebolt + bolt stop. The moment I turn the pressure to what's needed to shoot faster, the gun leaks.
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Old 09-26-2008, 06:44 AM #19
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Ha. Think you guys have it rough? Try using an HP in the Stage 5 original. Built in firing can, not like the 5.1. There's a bolt 'holder' piece, but it doesn't work with the HP or L7. I can get a 5.1 back cap and use TechT's adapter, but no go on the HP.
if you get a 5.1 back cap and put it in a stage 5. then the hp bolt system should work if you purchase the version made for the 5.1
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Old 09-27-2008, 11:47 AM #21
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if you get a 5.1 back cap and put it in a stage 5. then the hp bolt system should work if you purchase the version made for the 5.1
I'm going to try that when my new back cap arrives.

The only thing is that the green 'firing insert' piece on the stage 5. I'm hoping that it will just work as it is.

I know Tech T sells a $20 piece on their website to make the L7 work on the Stage 5. This replaces the green piece, I assume.

The stage 5 has a built it, non-removable firing can.
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