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Old 09-12-2008, 01:39 PM #22
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did you not read what i said? i said they should be present in everybody's diet, so theyre not necessarily only a performance food.
You are going to be argueing against people who frankly know way way more than you.
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Old 09-12-2008, 01:41 PM #23
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This is going to be a love/hate thread I think.
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Old 09-12-2008, 01:45 PM #24
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You are going to be argueing against people who frankly know way way more than you.
well its kind of expected that you get your daily values of fruits/vegetables/dairy/nutrients/vitamins/etc. before you start adding the extra protein and calories. should i also say drink your milk so you get enough calcium to build strong bones while working out?! its like telling somebody who works out to eat complex carbs instead of simple carbs, its common knowledge.
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Old 09-12-2008, 01:48 PM #25
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You say its common knowledge, but do you know the actual difference between simple carbs and complex carbs and how each is metabolized in the body?

(I'll go ahead and give you permission to use google)
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Old 09-12-2008, 01:52 PM #26
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You say its common knowledge, but do you know the actual difference between simple carbs and complex carbs and how each is metabolized in the body?

(I'll go ahead and give you permission to use google)
who cares as long as complex are better for you? do you really need to know how they metabolize as long as they have more fiber and protein? no.

i never said i know more than anybody here, i wasnt even trying to argue, i was saying its kinda funny to be posting vegetables in a workout recipe thread. when you workout you need extra protein and calories so these recipes should be aimed at getting more protein and calories, not typical items that should be a part of everybody's diet such as fruits and vegetables.
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Old 09-12-2008, 01:56 PM #27
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Let me ask you a question. How many servings of veggies do you get in, in a day?
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Old 09-12-2008, 01:56 PM #28
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You're wrong.

Certain veggies and fruits you want to avoid, while others are to be consumed in large amounts.

Knowing how things work is the whole idea. If you don't know how/why you're eating a particular, what the hell is the point? Knowing these things makes everything fall into place.
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Old 09-12-2008, 02:00 PM #29
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Let me ask you a question. How many servings of veggies do you get in, in a day?
depends, but i get at least 4-5 fruits and veggies combined everyday.

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You're wrong.

Certain veggies and fruits you want to avoid, while others are to be consumed in large amounts.

Knowing how things work is the whole idea. If you don't know how/why you're eating a particular, what the hell is the point? Knowing these things makes everything fall into place.
yes i know the difference between certain fruits and veggies. i never said all of them were the same.
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Old 09-12-2008, 02:01 PM #30
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Point is, when dieting for bulking, intake differs than when dieting for cutting.

Dieting for performance training is different than both of the above. Everything changes, there are no "standards" period.

There is a lot more to it than just PROTEIN!
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Old 09-12-2008, 02:14 PM #31
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Point is, when dieting for bulking, intake differs than when dieting for cutting.

Dieting for performance training is different than both of the above. Everything changes, there are no "standards" period.

There is a lot more to it than just PROTEIN!
i know, trust me. i count everything i eat everyday, not on paper but im keeping a rough count in my head constantly.

just so you dont think im a douchebag from the gym who throws back straight protein all day ill write a typical day for me.

breakfast-
2 packets of weight control oatmeal(it has reduced sugar and extra protein)
i use a cup of skim milk instead of water
add a scoop of whey protein
eat a piece of fruit
and drink about 3 cups of water

lunch-
some type of nut(almonds, peanuts, cashews, or pecans for a source of healthy fats)
sandwich with whole wheat bread, turkey or ham, and fat free cheese
a piece of fruit and some type of veggie
and i drink a few cups of water or diet green tea

after school-
on workout days ill go to the gym then make a shake when i come home.
for a shake i put in 2 scoops of dreyers slow churned ice cream(no added sugar and reduced fat), scoop of peanut butter, scoop of whey protein, skim milk, and a banana.

if i dont workout then i usually make another sandwich or sautee some chicken and veggies. just a light meal before dinner.

dinner-
varies but i get at least 1 fruit or veggie, source of protein, and a source of whole grains.
and i drink 2 cups of skim milk.

before bed-
ill drink a glass of milk or eat a light source of protein like a can of tuna or fat free cheese.

i drink water constantly throughout the day(the only liquids i ever consume are skim milk, water, diet green tea, and occasionally fruit juices depending on how it was made) and constantly watch saturated fat intake and sugars/simple carbs and make sure im getting enough protein, calories, and fiber. i take a multivitamin from the vitamin shoppe to help makeup for any vitamins that i may have not gotten enough of that day depending on what foods i had eaten.
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Old 09-12-2008, 02:16 PM #32
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I'm not trying to stir a ****pot or anything. I'm simply making a point that when it comes to a diet, there isn't any "standard". Everyone has different needs when it comes to their intake. Every detail counts.
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Old 09-12-2008, 02:22 PM #33
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I'm not trying to stir a ****pot or anything. I'm simply making a point that when it comes to a diet, there isn't any "standard". Everyone has different needs when it comes to their intake. Every detail counts.
i know haha i wasnt trying to post that to sound like a dick, but so that you could see that im not neglecting parts of my diet. i understand that every part of your diet counts(unlike most people who eat burgers and fries at least once a day).
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Old 09-12-2008, 02:29 PM #34
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depends, but i get at least 4-5 fruits and veggies combined everyday.



yes i know the difference between certain fruits and veggies. i never said all of them were the same.
Exactly, your not getting enough. But it is about 100x better than most.

Edit: Didnt read your diet or anything didnt see it before I posted, you are on the right track.
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Old 09-14-2008, 12:32 AM #35
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Hmm...so this is like the ST: S Weightlifting Thread's secret nutrition hideout I see, I love this idea....and no offense empire timmy but my tuna burgers would beat the living ****ing **** out of yours. I make at least 2 everyday and Im pretty sure I perfected my own recipe
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Old 09-14-2008, 12:47 PM #36
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And why dont you share that with us?
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:38 AM #37
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This is for anybody who's new and coming to this thread, as I'm sure most of the regulars already know of this book. There is a great book out there about nutrition and has a lot of simple recipes. The book is called Muscle Chow by Gregg Avedon.



Flip through it and pick it up if you ever get the chance.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:22 AM #38
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And why dont you share that with us?
I guess I can grace you guys with my culinary skills; just know all my ingredients are to taste, add as much or as little as you would like

2 cans of tuna
egg
oats
hot sauce
old bay seasoning (key)
fresh ground salt and pepper
parsley
diced tomato
diced banana pepper
diced red onion
lemon juice
crushed red pepper

You should let the banana pepper onion and tomato sweat a little bit in the skillet before mixing in with the tuna, it really brings out the flavor. These patties have a lot of kick to them, it all depends on how much hot sauce you decide to add. These things are ****ing sex
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:35 PM #39
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is this a thread i can come in and look for advice about losing weight?
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Old 09-20-2008, 07:15 PM #40
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is this a thread i can come in and look for advice about losing weight?
well idk how successful this thread will be as a whole bc it hasnt been posted in since the 16th, but im sure if you ask questions somebody will respond.
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Old 09-20-2008, 07:16 PM #41
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1 can tuna
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