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Old 09-09-2008, 11:49 PM #1
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ULTIMATE "Is my MARKER a limited Edition?" thread...

And the ovewhelming answer is... NO.

Stop it, just stop it already!!!



This site has turned into an oasis for zombie-like nimrods who's ONLY priority in life is to have the latest & greatest Marker and more importantly, one that is rare in the hopes that it drives up their resale value for when the next new toy is on the radar.

Again... STOP IT!!!


While there are some Limited Markers out there, THEY ARE VERY FEW AND FAR IN BETWEEN!!!!

A few that come to mind are the Entity Trixxes (pretty limited), Flame Timmys (Only 2), Prototype Ripper's (12, varying in design) & IronMan Timmys (I think 5 or 6 - can't remember the exact figure), The Ripper 1.5 Timmy (Only 2), The Oops! MARQ (what evolved into the Russian Legion MARQ - ONLY 2 Originals - The Russian's Model is slightly different), Rage Alias (limited to 60 units - the rarest production Timmy - Started life as the Toxic more than 2 years before its release and I had the very first one off the line), The Edge MARQ (very few made - forget the actual figure), Terry's Copper CLOSER (only rare because it's his personal gat, is the only Copper CLOSER from factory and oozes Fong-Tasticness), Ripper Cockers, the one that started it all (new LIMITED runs may be resurfacing - what I hear through the grape vine) A few PE Cockers, etc.

ONLY Markers that are produced in limited quantities are or should be considered "RARE". Anodize, Laser Engraving, Custom Gouging with your X-acto, Rubbing Magic Sand all over it, or having the ano fade due to lesser quality alloys utilized by the manufacturer, the addition of aftermarket cosmetics and/or upgrades, and the like...

DO NOT, I REPEAT... DO NOT Make your Marker limited!!!



Anodizing can be replicated by a multitude of reputable anodizers who specialize in Paintball Markers and who's to say it wasn't done from factory?

While Bob's white is the only one of it's kind, anyone who is willing to pay for one that is similar can come close. that is the only ano that is truly rare and only then it is a byproduct of the finishing as the ano itself is just good old quality ano.


If you read this and take offense to it, GOOD!


Perhaps it will keep you from posting another USELESS thread, taking up bandwidth and peoples' time in answering your nonsense.

Oh how I miss the days when knowledgeable people would come together in here and converse over real, intelligent, debatable topics. now it's come to this.


Mods, I will not protest if you wish to sticky this and I'm sure plenty of people would appreciate it too.



ROB.
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Old 09-10-2008, 12:00 AM #2
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Old 09-10-2008, 09:20 AM #5
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Thank you Rob! I am tired of hearing "my gun is 1 of 1...I swapped parts..."

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Old 09-10-2008, 11:09 AM #7
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Old 09-10-2008, 12:11 PM #8
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Only 12 Entity Trixs were made by Aardvark.
250 Ripper 1 timmys were made, only 242 bodies were actually given to Bob.
Only 20 Mommas Boys timmys were ever made (w/ the NorCal emblem)

IronMen timmys are more available - I believe several hundred were made (maybe Terry can give an exact number).
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wait, does this mean that my Rapper LE is worth eleventy billion dollars cuz its the only one that says 4/25 on it so its 1 of 1? omg im so special good job on the post tho.

and they made 50 edges, 8 of them gloss black
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Old 09-10-2008, 03:41 PM #10
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Maybe add this to the top post.

1 of a kind: Unique (simply really!).
2 - 5: Epic.
6 - 12: Rare.
13 - 25: Extremely Limited Edition.
26 - 100: Limited Edition.
101+: Not as limited as you maybe think edition

That's what Nicky T said
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i <3 you incubus but we all know that these" nimrods" will continue to post. I hope you made a bunch of kids angry.
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I'm haven't been on PBN all that long but I would see a post and SCREAM before I could hit the back button with all the "how much is this worth", "is this rare. My son's 15 and laughs and jokes about smearing paint on his and calling it rare or one of a kind. My son works for his paintball gear; I wonder how many do and if it would change what they get. Probably not all are teenagers, but I would like to think they are. If you want something that will keep it's value or go up, buy gold. Good post
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Fantastic post Rob. Bookmarked for future use
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THANK YOU,

i do dissagree on some of the not rare due to factory anno thing tho, companies that still put serial numbers on their guns know what color they were annod from the factory and some were limited anno runs, such as my patriot edition black magic cocker.......

and then some companies (fusions come to mind) released so many of each color and specifically numbered them "X of XX" so technically those would be limited eventho the bodies are all identical, because each is numbered.... eventho that is a gimmick imo

but i do agree, there are too many people claiming to have rare or 1of1 guns
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I take offense to this thread and I move to have you banned because you have no idea what you are talking about

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I agree with everything said here. Furthermore, I'd like to add that custom work is something that is readily available in this industry. That means two things:

1. If your gun has 200 dollars worth of custom work, it does not make the gun worth 600 more. The wait time for work balances out having what YOU want done. It might be worth a little more, but not multiple times.

2. Rare milled guns are not worth 15 times what it would cost to have the milling replicated. The dark dm4 for example, could be milled by a custom shop for WAY under 500 bucks. The gun is a **** ugly failed prototype, its not worth 4500. Open offer to anyone that wants a dark dm4, I'll put one on your doorstep and send a hooker with it to give you a blowjob for half the asking price whenever that gun is up for sale.
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IronMen timmys are more available - I believe several hundred were made (maybe Terry can give an exact number).
I was referring to the Prototype Ironman Timmys. They are indeed rare.

Here's one of the 12 Prototype IRONMAN Timmys with the 4 Window Cuts down below instead of the 5. Mind you this one is completely 2k5'd with the exception of the Evil Front Block.


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THANK YOU,

i do dissagree on some of the not rare due to factory anno thing tho, companies that still put serial numbers on their guns know what color they were annod from the factory and some were limited anno runs, such as my patriot edition black magic cocker.......

and then some companies (fusions come to mind) released so many of each color and specifically numbered them "X of XX" so technically those would be limited eventho the bodies are all identical, because each is numbered.... eventho that is a gimmick imo

but i do agree, there are too many people claiming to have rare or 1of1 guns
You may have a Rare Ano job on your Cocker but the Marker itself... is but one of several thousands just like it.

Even still, its no special feat and anyone can etch, laser or stamp a serial number on a Marker
so it looks authentic and no one will ever be the wiser, except for maybe the factory.

In this industry serial numbers are pretty much meaningless unless you have to return a Marker within the “warranty” period for repairs and/or replacement. And even then, the factory will do everything in it’s power to not have to give away parts or a new Marker. Even worse, what good is a serial number if there is no longer a factory to support the product? So you have a 1 of 5 rare gem, say you?... How would anyone verify its authenticity other than trying to research on the web, “the most reliable source of information”?

Either way, these threads are a total waste of time & space, PERIOD. The true value of a Marker depends on what the owner perceives it to be based on how much the individual paid for it, how much money the spent on true performance upgrades, how long they’ve owned it (things tend to depreciate over time), and the overall condition/working state of the marker.

For instance, I have a Texas Storm Timmy that I bought for $1150 when they were released which I still have it to this day. Even though I have plenty of newer Markers, The Storm is my Primary Marker as that is the one that feels more like a natural extension me. While most Storms these days sell for about $200 I would NEVER, EVER in a million years whore it out at that INSULT of a price. To me, the $1150 I spent on it, Plus the additional $350 I spent on it over the years to fully Alias it out and anodize the frame to match the factory ano make it a $1500 Marker. In my eyes, selling a $1500 for $200 like some destitute Crack Whore is disgusting and value my dollar far too much to ever do that. I’d rather let it hang on my wall ‘til I’m old & gray than prostitute it out like that.

Too boot, it’s still one of, if not THEEE best Markers on ANY Field I step to with it. And EVERYONE loves it. I get offers on it all the time and the answer is always the same...

Not unless you have $1,000. They laugh and tell me I’m crazy but when I take the opposite side of the field, they realize my price was not unreasonable. I had one of Rage’s D2 guys play with it for a match and he was blown away by how amazing it shot. He plucked more than half of the opposing players all by himself.

It’s those kinds of things that determine a Marker’s value/worth, NOT the going crack whore rates.
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