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Old 09-21-2008, 09:29 PM #106
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Why arent marines using m4s? arent those supposed to be standard across the board now, or are they to broke to get em?
I had an M4.

We use a mixture of M16A4's, M4's, SAWs..... and I guess a few people still have the A2, but we're phasing out everything old for new stuff. My unit has mostly all M4's now.


Slowly we're getting more and more M4's, but I doubt we'll ever really get rid of A4's completely.
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:29 PM #107
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if you are fighting in the open shooting at 500 meter why would you want a carbine with a collapsable stock that is more likely to shift or have a wobbel which alters your npo(natural point of aim) or your cheek weld which will change your accuracy
Because when you are wearing body armor with SAPI plates, the standard buttstock is way too long to be useable, and there is no such thing as 'cheek weld' when you're shooting. Another thing.. in real combat most firefights are under 100m. I am a sniper and have never even fired a shot over 400 in the real world
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:35 PM #108
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Because when you are wearing body armor with SAPI plates, the standard buttstock is way too long to be useable, and there is no such thing as 'cheek weld' when you're shooting. Another thing.. in real combat most firefights are under 100m. I am a sniper and have never even fired a shot over 400 in the real world
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Any combat I was in was in an urban setting, and like he said 100m is just where the **** hits the fan so to speak
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:39 PM #109
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thats y i included the fact that i know open battle is becomming/ is a thing of the past

berserker what do you mean there is no such thing as a cheek weld?
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Old 09-21-2008, 10:08 PM #110
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when you are wearing armor and a helmet, it is impossible to get a proper shooting position since you can't even possibly bend your head down low enough to tuck the stock between your shoulder and cheek. You just plant the stock against your shoulder and put your head behind the sights.
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Old 09-21-2008, 10:11 PM #111
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oh i took it as period like with any rifle or any shooting condition
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Old 09-21-2008, 10:15 PM #112
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sorry to ask but its just curiosity but,

what is actual REAL combat like?
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Old 09-21-2008, 10:28 PM #113
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berserker you should look into a riser for the stock thats what both of my cousins used (served iraq, afganistan, and kosavo)

they actually duct taped a piece of something on the weapons to raise up the comb
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Old 09-21-2008, 10:54 PM #114
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sorry to ask but its just curiosity but,

what is actual REAL combat like?
Confusing, loud, terrifying
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:27 PM #115
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kinda like bein shot in general jack

ive never been in combat but i have been shot at 3-4 times while chasing poaschers and trespassers off my familys farm
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:36 PM #116
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kinda like bein shot in general jack

ive never been in combat but i have been shot at 3-4 times while chasing poaschers and trespassers off my familys farm
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:53 PM #117
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Are you allowed to use your own personal weapon attachments or are they issued to you or what?
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:55 PM #118
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Are you allowed to use your own personal weapon attachments or are they issued to you or what?
buy what you want, use what you want, but 8 million flashights and laser beams aren't going to make your bullet go any straighter
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:10 AM #119
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Haha, I realize this. I just read the last page with the discussion about optics and it's all clear now.
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:50 PM #120
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Only thing I would invest in if you're going to Iraq is a nice pair of shades and optics for your rifle
alright, thanks for the tip. i was looking at Wiley X's as shades. optics...that id have to look more into.
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:01 PM #121
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:06 PM #122
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alright, thanks for the tip. i was looking at Wiley X's as shades. optics...that id have to look more into.
I like Oakley half jackets, and I believe alot of Army units are issuing either Oakleys or Wiley X's as shades.
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:08 PM #123
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Standard Issue Marine Corps KBAR, Ya I know I'm in the Army
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:09 PM #124
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what do you all use for knives
I only use a Gerber/Leatherman multi tool, when it comes down to it unless you encounter a hand-to-hand situation you're only gonna use your knife to open MRE's and food rations.
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I like Oakley half jackets, and I believe alot of Army units are issuing either Oakleys or Wiley X's as shades.
alright thanks man.
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:13 PM #126
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I only use a Gerber/Leatherman multi tool, when it comes down to it unless you encounter a hand-to-hand situation you're only gonna use your knife to open MRE's and food rations.
and even then thats rare in this day and age... then I realized the last bayonet charge was in Iraq.... crazy *** scottish
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