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Old 07-21-2003, 07:14 PM #1
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Smart Parts Patent Will Destroy Paintball! - Read!

From Jim at Wicked Air Sportz


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I just got off the phone with Bob Long and was updated on the pending lawsuits from Smart Parts to everyone in the industry (WDP, ICD, National, etc.)

Smart Parts broadended their patent, and it was revised in January. The patent is very broad. The patent covers ANY paintball marker that has an on/off switch. This means Spyders with electronic triggers, Intimidators, Angels, Matrices, Bushmasters, and anything else with a battery will be in violation of Smart Parts' patent.

On Friday, a judge approved Smart Parts' request to proceed with lawsuits against various companies for patent infringements. On August 18th, a trial will begin. This is moving very quickly.

As a patent consultant myself, and can not understand how the patent can be granted, as it will impede technology, which is one of the things that a patent can never do.

Smart Parts is rumored to want a million dollar signing fee, and $75 per unit sold for a royalty fee.

I would recommend contacting Smart Parts and expressing your concern.


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Old 07-21-2003, 07:26 PM #2
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at least it won't affect my mechanical cocker.....
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Old 07-21-2003, 07:34 PM #3
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Woo, my 2k3 cocker im getting is safe
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Old 07-21-2003, 07:36 PM #4
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thats straight up bull. a patent on ALL electronic markers?
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Old 07-21-2003, 07:38 PM #5
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it wont affect any of your currently owned guns, but it will affect the new angel coming out after the speed and such.
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Old 07-21-2003, 07:39 PM #6
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As a patent consultant myself, and can not understand how the patent can be granted, as it will impede technology, which is one of the things that a patent can never do.
Are you really a patent consultant?
If you were, you would know they are MEANINGLESS by themselves.

Someone just patented the "power-feed" a couple years ago. Obviously it was already invented by AGD 12 years ago, but they still got the patent.
Someone else just patented the generic stacked-tube blowback. Yes, they somehow received the patent, but its still useless.

Along with a patent, you need a GOOD PATENT LAWYER to enforce the patent.
Smart Parts is owned by a patent lawyer, so they have that covered.

But you also have to show there is no prior art.
Unfortunetly for Smart Parts, there is LOTS, and LOTS of prior art. There is a few patents for electronic paintball guns that existed BEFORE the shocker.
Ironically, Smart Parts didn't even design it. They bought it from another company, and managed to patent it. In fact, I can't think of anything that Smart Parts actually invented. Its pretty arrogant to claim "ownership" of technology that was bought/stolen elsewhere.

So... I take it all with a grain of salt. I think there will be a huge backlash againt Smart Parts for being the MICROSOFT of paintball.

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Old 07-21-2003, 07:45 PM #7
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Old 07-21-2003, 07:45 PM #8
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yeah Sp is ghey about that, diddnt they try to sue for the patent on any solenoid operated marker or something? they arent gonna win thats for sure
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Old 07-21-2003, 07:52 PM #9
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Kotowa, you with the "2003 shocker when it comes" in the sig... I would hold off on that if I were you.
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Old 07-21-2003, 07:57 PM #11
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yeah i know its very real, but they wont win...... havent they tried 2 or 3 times already?

also, i would like a few of those stickers if you have any more lol
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Old 07-21-2003, 08:02 PM #12
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ya well I think all of the major tournament serious should not give smartparts a tent or area to show their equipment.
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Old 07-21-2003, 08:03 PM #13
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i feel a HUGE SP boycott on the horizon
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I'm not a fan of the NRA but I think the phrase

"They'll get my (paintball) gun when they pull it from my cold dead hands!" is exactly what needs to be said here.

Smart Parts can straight **** me, I've been boycotting Smart Parts for over three years and this just adds fuel to the fire.

SP is about to get a big shock soon. A lot of tournament teams are thinking about ditching their SP gear and sponsorship for gear that actually works and the '03 Shocker sales won't be anywhere near as close as where SP hopes they will be. I know I'd rather shoot a AKA or a ICD (two companies I don't really like) gun than a SP gun based purely on principals.

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Dude that blowz....ty I nvr bought a sp product. Man tahts guna **** pb up to. So basicaly all guns other than sp that have an on/off switch must find another way to turn o an off. I'm kinda lost a lil, help throw me back on track of whats happn. What actuacly offical documantations (legal **** in other words) sp has an what they plan to do excatly?
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It's amazing some of the claims were granted considering the prior art.
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check the thread on automags.org, but if anyone wants to call smart parts heres their
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I can't believe those bastards, I think I will edit this when I get more thoughts in my mind concerning the matter.
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man this totally sucks balls for lots of people, i got a impulse and now im just pissed im selling this, i mean its great gun, but its just a g*y name brand

then what i heard i dont know if its true, that bob long is putting something down so that the WAS board dont come out for impulses, dunno if thats true if you got info tell me if it is or isnt coming out
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how could BL patent something he doesnt make?


but i do HIGHLY doubt SP will win
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yeah i know its very real, but they wont win...... havent they tried 2 or 3 times already?

also, i would like a few of those stickers if you have any more lol
Wont win? This is court, its unfair, the percentage is in their favor.

Updated sig, ive been dissapointed in the 2k3 shocker anyway.
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