Everyone knows longer doesnt = better accuracy

QuencyJones16 · 07-26-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by usafpilot90

Okay, you must have never used a Un1tech. I just had to buy one for my LION. Un1techs are a one piece barrel pretty much. The back just adapts it onto the gun, the entire barrel is the same bore. Unlike every other barrel on the market pretty much, like the UL that is .692 and a much larger front. So that is why a control bore must be the same for both markers being tested.

But 16" is helpful in a lot of cases.

That is what I am saying, since the whole length of the barrel on a Un1tec is the same ID, that would basically be the control bore, an 14" to16" control bore. But take a UL with its' 5" control bore and they are not the same.

Like stated to have a real test, both barrels have to have the same length of control bore.

P.S- I have used more barrels than you can count.

Iram · 07-26-2008, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gutless

Usafpilot is right, Every barrel will produce the same velocities, that is as long as the gun shoots the same amount of air every shot. Because if you think about it, the gun is going to shoot the same amount of air on an 8 inch barrel as it will on a 21 inch barrel, when people say it shoots farther it is because the paint they're using weighs less than the paint somebody else is using.

That's not correct.

Every barrel can shoot the same velocities (within reason), but only if the ammount of air is NOT the same.

Too short a "control bore" will require more air (basically you need to go from 0-300 in 4" instead of 0-300 in 10"). A barrel that's too long with have extra friction with the ball, so you need more air to overcome the friction at the end of the barrel (where the air pressure in the barrel is already dropping since it expanded). And in between, there is a sweetspot with the ideal efficiency and control bore length. Tom Kay did some tests years ago and concluded it ideal was somewhere around 8-10" (if I remember correctly).

Sifio · 07-26-2008, 11:55 AM

This may sound ridiculous, but I'm more accurate with a 16" barrel because it's easier to aim with.

Havoc-paintballer · 07-26-2008, 03:21 PM

^I alreday said that. THAT is the "difference" in accuracy.

sepet · 07-26-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sifio

This may sound ridiculous, but I'm more accurate with a 16" barrel because it's easier to aim with.

..same reason, i have 16" too

termitemfp · 07-31-2008, 09:19 PM

I had the same question so i asked to guy at my local pro shop. Anything above a 14" barrel is a waste of money.

Logan_Dizzle · 08-01-2008, 11:16 AM

i had a 16 inch stiffi and then i stopped taking viagra.

no seriously, i tried a 16 inch and it was awkwardly long, i couldnt manuever the bunker the same way i ended up ghosting it lol i stick with a freak 14, which we all know SP cant messure so its more like 13.

they must be.....over compensating

hahaha

MstrKey · 08-01-2008, 01:45 PM

I use a 16 inch all the time. i just find I can press the air bunker in and stay covered better that way. 14 works too but some bunkers are just a tad too thick. So for me it depends on where I'm playing. It is easier to sight along a 16 inch as well. It's a bit quieter too if you care about that.

Snyper 27 · 08-01-2008, 06:00 PM

I personally use a 12" TI Longbow, its sickly accurate and i like the shortness. I routinely put ppl out from across the field, 100 ft is not a long shot for me. i have no prob aiming.

HippieMagic · 08-01-2008, 07:24 PM

Confidence is the only thing that matters. I mean as long as you THINK you can hit the person and have that confidence in your mind you are able to achieve a better level of performance than if you think your marker or barrel is sub par.

PaintBallin27 · 08-01-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HippieMagic

Confidence is the only thing that matters. I mean as long as you THINK you can hit the person and have that confidence in your mind you are able to achieve a better level of performance than if you think your marker or barrel is sub par.

+10000

usafpilot90 (Banned) · 08-01-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HippieMagic

Confidence is the only thing that matters. I mean as long as you THINK you can hit the person and have that confidence in your mind you are able to achieve a better level of performance than if you think your marker or barrel is sub par.

That is the most bull**** I've ever read.

HippieMagic · 08-01-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by usafpilot90

That is the most bull**** I've ever read.

You can choose not to believe me... I don't care. The fact is paintball is like 80% confidence in your ability and 20% equipment. You can have a $1500 paintball marker and no confidence and guess what... that guy with the 98C will run your *** over because he believes he is the better player.

You should be playing with your skill... not your marker...

PaintBallin27 · 08-01-2008, 09:06 PM

Exactly! Having an upgraded marker is just a bonus.

HippieMagic · 08-01-2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PaintBallin27

Exactly! Having an upgraded marker is just a bonus.

Yeah haha I have a $1300 marker but only because I wanted a totally custom cocker.

a_sock · 08-01-2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HippieMagic

Yeah haha I have a $1300 marker but only because I wanted a totally custom cocker.

...pics of said cocker?

length is all preference, If you can aim better with a 16 inch, use it. Ive got barrels from 6"-20" and theres no difference between a 1 or 2 inch difference, they all put the paint where I want it.

Zack890 · 08-01-2008, 11:16 PM

At the splatterpark big game some kid had a 21" on his tippmann and used a barrel plug and they had to take his gun away while they found him a magnum barrel sock- dont be that guy

PaintBallin27 · 08-01-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HippieMagic

Yeah haha I have a $1300 marker but only because I wanted a totally custom cocker.

yea, i have a $1455 tippmann alpha black that can consistently shoot at 30bps and its +-3fps.

before you say anything, im into mil-sim, thats why.

usafpilot90 (Banned) · 08-01-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PaintBallin27

yea, i have a $1455 tippmann alpha black that can consistently shoot at 30bps and its +-3fps.

before you say anything, im into mil-sim, thats why.

You forgot this

PaintBallin27 · 08-02-2008, 12:33 AM

no i didn't... its a GREAT gun but i think i went to over board. i waiting for it to come back from getting duracoated. i will be saving for a nice droid soon but i have to save $500-$1000 for my school clothes first.

usafpilot90 (Banned) · 08-02-2008, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PaintBallin27

no i didn't... its a GREAT gun but i think i went to over board. i waiting for it to come back from getting duracoated. i will be saving for a nice droid soon but i have to save $500-$1000 for my school clothes first.

Yes, you did

It will not shoot 30 BPS unless it has eyes, which it does not unless you have more money than sense. And I have no clue how you spent $1,455 on a gun that costs $170 at max.