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View Poll Results: Which Angel should I get.
Angel IR3 72 10.86%
Angel IR3 Fly 69 10.41%
Angel LCD 60 9.05%
Angel LCD Fly 40 6.03%
Angel LED 21 3.17%
WDP SPEED 300 45.25%
Other (explain which gun and why) 101 15.23%
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Old 04-27-2003, 05:38 PM #1
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Don't know which one to get

I am having trouble picking an Angel to get. So please help a brother out.
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Old 04-27-2003, 05:57 PM #2
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Old 04-27-2003, 06:37 PM #3
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People keep telling me that but they never give reasons. I know they are frickin fast but what is good about them. Please tell me cuz I really want to know.
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Old 04-27-2003, 11:29 PM #4
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heres the specs on it, yea get a speed



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New - LED Encapsulated Speed-Board
New - Double Serviceable Low-Profile Ball Detents
New –Ram – Totally New Serviceable Design, 50% More Efficient
New – Sculptured Removable Hammer
New – Valve Dwell – Reduced by 60%
New - Minireg – Low Pressure, 50% increase in Gas Flow
New – LPR – Serviceable, Operates with 1/3 Less Pressure
New – Bolt – 20% More Efficient
New - Exhaust Valve and Guide– 4 x Previous Flow-Rate
New – Smaller, Lighter 4.8v Rechargeable Metal Hydride Battery (100’000 shots)
New – 4.8v Intelli-Charger
New - Trigger system – External TOE Adjustment for Increased Rate of Fire up to 30bps (with Sensi activated)
New – Increased Gas Galleries – 2 x Air Flow
New – One Piece Flash tank – Improved Gas Flow
New – Integral Breech Seal


New Software

New – 5 Modes of fire (Semi-Automatic)
New – Sensi Load Detection System (LDS) .
New – Switch & Go Operation
New – LED Power-Bar Including ROF Speedometer.


Low pressure Operation Statistics

LPR pressure is 1/3 less than previous Angels, meaning 33% less force is applied by the bolt to the ball.

Working Pressure of 180-350psi, reduced by up to 60%. Delivering reduced ball stress and quieter operation with no effect on Rate of Fire.

60% reduction in valve dwell reduces cycle time, increasing achievable ROF to 30 BPS. (with Sensi activated)

Integral Breech seal on Super-flow Breech porting

Increased porting delivers double the previous gas flow to the Bolt

New Bolt is 20% more efficient, typically raising velocity by 40fps at the same working pressure.

Out of the box, Speed users can achieve up to 1450 shots at 290fps from a 68/4500 tank.(results based on Angel Air system)
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Old 04-28-2003, 12:36 AM #5
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out of the list you have, obviously an Ir3 is going to be better. Fly or base is up to you and what you like.
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Old 04-28-2003, 04:22 PM #6
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black base ir3 or a speed
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Old 04-28-2003, 04:32 PM #7
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I shot a speed this weekend and they are unbelievably fast, accurate, and they dont use much air at all. It is basically a matix with better air effiency (SP?), better looks, and a brand we can all trust. And even a noob can get at least 16bps on it. It is awesome.
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Old 04-29-2003, 08:24 PM #8
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I dont know, I could never get my LCD to shoot very fast, only 11bps. I was very dissapointed with that, seeing as the whole reason I got an angel was because it was fast, it was no where near as accurate as my shocker, and I had always liked them. Then when I owned it, i stopped. It wasn't accurate, had too much kick, and didn't even shoot very fast. So I sold it. I now own an eclipse eblade autococker. I like it much much more than any angel I have ever shot, and I have shot quite a few. It is much much faster than my angel ever was, has almost no kick, and is dead on accurate. So I vote other for the eblade autococker.
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Old 04-29-2003, 10:32 PM #9
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Well, this is my hands on report. This weekend at my local feild a friend that plays with my team had a new speed out and we all got our chance to test it out......The results.

We werer all let down. very highly dissapointed. We ran about 3 cases through it and it didnt perform near as well as my teamates 03 lcd. There we 4 of us there so it wasnt just me, that thought this way. Mabey it was just the braking in of the gun, and it will perform better next weekend, well the owner hopes anyway. The accuracy was down, not the best looking gun,all around one of my least favoirt guns from wdp.Solution get a 03 lcd.
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Old 05-01-2003, 07:19 PM #10
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Viking/Excalibur!

Fast: WAS is uncapped, can turn the stock up to much faster than you will ever shoot anyway. (Viking)

Low Pressure: They don't call AKA the Low Pressure Experts for nothin'. How about under 75 PSI? You break it in, get the OP lowered, and BOOM: PINCHING!!

Efficent: Lets not even mention shots per tank.

Maintenance: No rotor breech, just pop the pin and wipe your bolt. (If you ever do break one)

Price: Unbeatable for the performance.


Hey, I don't mean to diss on Angels, I own one, I love it too. Although, AKA guns just plain ROCK, Period.

If any of you wish to Flame me, tell me how much you hate me, or ask me any questions about AKA guns, go right ahead. I know many Viking/Excal owners that can answer your questions. And there are the AKA forums too.


(I do not claim to know everything about these awesome markers, I just want people to appreciate them.)

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Old 05-01-2003, 08:26 PM #11
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I like the rota breech. Also, I despise WAS boards in any gun, but I am sure the stock is an excellent board. I dont think 75psi is the operating pressure, just the cycling pressure. I would buy an Excal if I was loaded, and had about 6 or 7 other guns first, just personal preference though, they seem to be very nice, especially the milling version.
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Old 05-01-2003, 10:17 PM #12
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Ya, sorry about the pressure. If you're set on an Angel, Rock Ir3!
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Old 05-01-2003, 11:22 PM #13
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i got my speed in last weekend. this thing rips and it gets good consistency (sp) i was geting 3+- off the chrono. didnt chop at all sensi works great. its like an upgraded IR3 without the stuff u dont need
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Old 05-02-2003, 10:50 PM #14
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Red face what gun should I buy

[size=3][font=courier new][color=blue] I am wondering what Angel should buy. If you have any suggestions e-mail me.
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Old 05-02-2003, 11:04 PM #15
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Next Marker

I have an E-Classed Orracle now and am looking into a new marker to buy. I know this is an Angel forum, however, please do not be biased.
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Old 05-02-2003, 11:17 PM #16
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I love my LCD, but I probably would have bought an IR3 if I had more cash on hand. I feel very comforable shooting angels though. Whatever you get, it will have that classic solid feel that I believe is the best feature of the markers. There is no bull**** to deal with. No plastic, all performance.
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Old 05-02-2003, 11:21 PM #17
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I really do love angels. Although if I were you I would also look into vikings. They seem to be one of the coolest guns around right now. Where else can you get a lifetime warranty, WAS board, and some of the best parts all put together into one gun for $810?

Like I said I love angels though. The reason that I got an angel over a viking is mainly because of the local support and knowledge of the gun by a wide range of people. If I ever have a problem, I have 3 or so shops within two hours or so that can do warranty work.
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Old 05-03-2003, 08:30 PM #18
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need new angel

ok i am selling my cobra to the original owner and i want ether a mamba lcd, a ironman lcd, or a speed. i dont know what to get. money is not the issue.
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Old 05-03-2003, 10:43 PM #19
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I wouldn't get a speed until it has proven itself...and pretty soon when they are more common they won't be an eyecatcher. The Mamba has a lifetime parts and labor so I would get that probably. But IMO The Dye looks the best, and I'm not sure what the warranty is on it. So with the information I have now I would go with the Mamba.
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Old 05-03-2003, 10:52 PM #20
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Old 05-04-2003, 02:54 AM #21
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defintly a viking or excal they are one of the hottest guns around like NO CHOPPING and great air effeciency and a WAS BOARD and te EYE is coming soon so absoltuley no chopping period. the viking is like a trix with better air effeciency and i def aint bustin on angels here i had an ir3 and a lcd but i would still stick with a viking but thats my op only
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