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Old 04-21-2008, 05:06 PM #64
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sorry to go off topic but every single smart parts gun is either an upgraded or downgraded shocker. Same thing with dye and eclipse there guns never rlly change. The only company that ive seen making ACTUAl iments is danger power.
back on topic, 1650 come on thats a little much
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:08 PM #65
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This is also a DLX forum. It is where people come to gain information about a gun. If you want to be a troll, go elsewhere.

I will start reporting people soon as well for trolling. Darryl is a good friend of mine, and I am here to help him. I have fixed the problem with trolling in the Smart Parts forums, and I have no problem helping out my boy.
...only further proving everybody's else's reason to hate on DLX if they're SP haters already... btw, you prolly should leave this whole matter alone, especially seeing how you already got owned... and back on topic, WAY too expensive, I can afford it but I just won't!!
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:13 PM #66
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any gun can and will chop at some point in time...
Sorry, I do not wish to make an argument about my opinion in my post above, but I do believe that this one must be clarified. There is one gun that is physically incapable of chopping.
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Every single *highly* priced gun will fall short on some aspects of that perfectly stated list
Actually, such a gun can be made to fit my list. I know exactly how to make it too. However, I don't have $1650 to do it.
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:14 PM #67
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:14 PM #68
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i think it is pretty ridiculous that their gun is more expensive than many competing high ends, and they don't even have to pay royalties to anyone
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:14 PM #69
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What is the point of paying more than 500 for a gun there just pieces of metal with a circut board in them and the highend markers are outdated every year
agreed. ive seen perfect DM4's go for $200 on the nation
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:56 PM #70
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:03 PM #71
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Planet Eclipse can have a marker that MSRP's above this, with MINOR improvements over the "standard" 08 and not receive the hate like Smart Parts does. The Luxe is a totally new gun with innovative features and it receives such hate.... people need to give it a chance before they start cutting it up.
This is different. PE has proven themselves by producing a very reliable marker. Many pro teams use them so they have high visibility. They can use that history to create a deluxe version of their marker (SL) and sell it for a premium.

We don't need to give it a chance - it's a very expensive unknown. DLX is going to have to find a way to get those who would even consider this as an option to choose a Luxe over the current offerings with known reliability/performance.

They are asking players to TRUST them. This is hard to do when you are basically a spin-off company from Smart Parts. Put the marker in the hands of more pros. Do something so that we have more than marketing to go by for making that decision.
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Old 04-22-2008, 04:08 PM #72
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its ugly and i wouldn't pay over $300 for it. cool/good design but c'mon, $1650? good luck.
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exactly. who the hell would buy a LUXE over a sl8r? its an epiphany/freestyle/mini.
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and they are all garbage.
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whats the point in a gun that talks to you? its yet completely pointless and one more thing to break.
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i refuse to buy/own/trade or sell any gun ever mad by sp OR a god damn daughter company for that matter. i suuuure hope they read this.

do you have anything nice to say about this new gun...jesus
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Old 04-22-2008, 04:57 PM #73
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and they are all garbage.
shut up the mini & freestyles are great you obviously don't know what your talking about so don't post.
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Old 04-22-2008, 05:09 PM #74
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shut up the mini & freestyles are great you obviously don't know what your talking about so don't post.
freestyles were garbage and the minis still are garbage.
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Old 04-22-2008, 05:15 PM #75
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Freestyles had one bad run of guns... they are perfectly fine now, I almost bought one myself
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Old 04-22-2008, 05:47 PM #76
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Exactly. Almost every gun has a bad run. It's whether or not the company fixes it. Take for example the MacDev Droid. A small defect existed in the bolts which was fixed really quick.
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Old 04-22-2008, 06:27 PM #77
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if freestyles and minis are garbage than timmies are spyders. Wait can't say that timmies are spyders and freestyles and minis are not garbage
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Old 04-22-2008, 06:59 PM #78
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This is also a DLX forum. It is where people come to gain information about a gun. If you want to be a troll, go elsewhere.

I will start reporting people soon as well for trolling. Darryl is a good friend of mine, and I am here to help him. I have fixed the problem with trolling in the Smart Parts forums, and I have no problem helping out my boy.
then why r u here?

lol reporting people, come on sean face the music and not everyone has to like a gun or ignore the history behind the manufactors of it just because its got a new name on it.

Hell if enron made a daughter company which released a diy business ethics movie do you think people would disregard who opened it.

Seriously man if you want to make this thread look legit make another pbnation name called sean@DLX or hell make it shawn@dlx that way people can be fooled into thinking dlx is operating 100% on their own. i would bet that 75% of DLX's staff also works at or for SP. Hell its not like dye tries to hide the fact that they own proto. why is SP trying to hide the fact that they own dlx.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:15 PM #79
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I agree with the man above
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:21 PM #80
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First off, this ain't an epiphany/mini/freestyle. Looking at your info and threads, you bought an overpriced SPYDER and now want to sell that. Yes, an intimidator is an overpriced spyder. Look for all them years how even Bad Company was using intimidator gripframes and boards on their spyders. Yea, yea... I know how everyone said that there were only 2 that the team had. I just find it funny that every picture I saw of bad company in action, the player was holding one of those 2 guns.

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1650 MSRP on a gun is crazy, heck anything over $1000 is crazy in my opinion. But then again, I'm not the one buying one and neither are you... obviously. So who cares what it's MSRP is? The SL's MSRP is even higher and even though I thought that Eclipse was smoke'n some darn good crack, I didn't say anything and neither did anyone else from what I saw.

The only reason you all are ripping on this gun is because Smart Parts had helped bring it to market. Everyone is crying about how Smart Parts is hurting paintball with this and that. When in reality, you all have no idea what is going on and don't know how to run a business. I tell ya what, go open your own paintball company (make sure you move outta mommy and daddy's basement first so you get the full effect) and see if you last even 1/4th the time Smart Parts has.

For us, this is a sport and game that we love. For them and their families it's business and provides them with food and a house to live in. And if Smart Parts was out to hurt paintball, why are all their markers so much cheaper than those in the same class? I can buy 2 new NXT's (almost 2 PL NXT's) for the price of one new DM8 or Ego8 and no one cries about that. But let the Luxe MSRP for 1650 and everyone cries and flames the gun when they know nothing about it.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:51 PM #81
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:12 PM #82
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then why r u here?

lol reporting people, come on sean face the music and not everyone has to like a gun or ignore the history behind the manufactors of it just because its got a new name on it.

Hell if enron made a daughter company which released a diy business ethics movie do you think people would disregard who opened it.

Seriously man if you want to make this thread look legit make another pbnation name called sean@DLX or hell make it shawn@dlx that way people can be fooled into thinking dlx is operating 100% on their own. i would bet that 75% of DLX's staff also works at or for SP. Hell its not like dye tries to hide the fact that they own proto. why is SP trying to hide the fact that they own dlx.
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:09 PM #83
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everyone here needs to chill....

i know this is an expensive gun and personally it is out of my price range, just like the SL series, droid and DM guns but.....

how much do you think it costs to make a gun? $300-500? more? then add in R&D, machine shop running costs, electricity, wages etc. this all mounts up per gun.... then you have after sales service, advertising, player sponsorship and event sponsorship and the cost of a gun is much higher than im sure we could imagine.

oh yeah and why should they make some money so they can buy a nice pair of jeans, take their wives out to dinner or pay their mortage???! capitalist pigs!

there are very few companies inovating out there these days, the newer companies just seem to be buying cheap knock of products from china and branding them as their own, support the companies that bring you more hot products that are nice to look at even if you cant afford them. i personally prefer to see new guns then a rip off carbon fibre barrel or a revoltionary T slot rail, what a joke!

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Old 04-22-2008, 10:33 PM #84
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Lol 3 markers in one. Each of the markers stated go for $150-$200 tops each...
A mini for $200 where the hell did you find that? No what your talking about before you post.
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