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Old 04-15-2008, 04:27 PM #22
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No one seems to list the wire-to-wire version of the PicoBlade connectors.
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:05 PM #23
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No one seems to list the wire-to-wire version of the PicoBlade connectors.
The only one I know is for the 51021-0200 ones, the opposite ones in a wire mount are 51047-0200. That is a 2 pin connector, if you want a 4 pin it is -0400, etc. etc. The crimp terminals for those, for 26-28 awg wire, are 51025-8100, and 50079-8100; I don't remember which are the male ones and which are the female. They also have smaller crimps for 28-32 awg wire, I don't know the # for those, I believe Ydna posted one of them in his list.

BTW, I managed to figure all that out after about 3 hours of searching. Also, if you want any of those, go to mouser.com, digikey didn't have one of those, I don't remember which though, I think it was the 51047.

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Old 04-18-2008, 07:02 PM #24
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Ok, I have edited the original post to reflect most all the information everyone has provided so far. I may have missed some details, though, so feel free to let me know if I screwed something up!

I am still looking for information about Angels, as well as the Mac Dev guns. There are also other guns that I haven't listed yet, due to overlooking things I am less familiar with.

I copied/pasted a bunch of info from Ydna's post, since there was a lot of info I wanted to sort into gun referenced list form. I will leave it for now.

The information that (I think) hansolo8221 provided for Raceguns was not specific in describing which parts the P#'s he listed went with, but I assume that having those P#'s will save people the hardest part of figuring out what they need. I will edit to describe which numbers go with what if they tell me, since I know very little about Raceguns. It might be very halpful to figure out the parts required to reconstruct a data cable for Racegun, too... I am not sure how possible that would be, though.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed their time and knowledge. I think that assembling this information will save people a lot of time!
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Old 04-19-2008, 12:16 PM #25
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The only one I know is for the 51021-0200 ones, the opposite ones in a wire mount are 51047-0200. That is a 2 pin connector, if you want a 4 pin it is -0400, etc. etc. The crimp terminals for those, for 26-28 awg wire, are 51025-8100, and 50079-8100; I don't remember which are the male ones and which are the female. They also have smaller crimps for 28-32 awg wire, I don't know the # for those, I believe Ydna posted one of them in his list.

BTW, I managed to figure all that out after about 3 hours of searching. Also, if you want any of those, go to mouser.com, digikey didn't have one of those, I don't remember which though, I think it was the 51047.
This info was already posted.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:28 PM #26
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Where?

Gyroscope specifically asked for that information at the top of the page, because it had NOT been posted. Part of it had; the 51021 connectors had been mentioned for a couple other uses. However, on their own all you can do with those is plug them directly into a board or something. The others I put in my last post are all the parts necessary to complete a wire-to-wire mating, which is what Gyroscope asked for.
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Old 04-20-2008, 01:45 PM #27
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To be honest, guys, I am feeling a little lost. Have I put the information into the first post yet? I want to be both complete and concise in my information. Maybe I should re-order the list alphabetically so that people can find their areas of expertise readily and offer corrections/ suggestions?

I think a paintball specific wiki would be a good thing.

I don't have anything on Angels or DMs yet; anyone own one and know what your part numbers are?
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:04 PM #28
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is 455-1366-ND
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=455-1366-ND

the same as Ego, Dye and Mac Dev noid connectors?
if so how would i find the male end and crimps?




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uh i think i found 2 possible possibilities(???)
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=455-1367-ND
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=455-1657-ND

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Old 04-22-2008, 07:52 PM #29
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throwing in my two cents:

those molex connectors listed for the morlock will work, but they are not the actual original part or manufacturer I believe.

if you look closley you will see that they are actually a Hirose DF-11 series connector. a DF11-12DS-2C to be exact. they can be purchased at digikey, along with the wires precrimped.
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sticky this please ! I have been looking for a break down like this forever!!
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:59 PM #31
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:12 PM #32
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is 455-1366-ND
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=455-1366-ND

the same as Ego, Dye and Mac Dev noid connectors?
if so how would i find the male end and crimps?




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uh i think i found 2 possible possibilities(???)
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=455-1367-ND
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=455-1657-ND
I'm pretty sure you have the correct part for Egos, at least- never poked around in a DM4+ or a Mac Dev gun, though. If you can confirm that the plugs are the same that would be super. ZH series is what Eclipse uses, though. As for the male part, I can't say with any certainty, but both your candidates look solid to me.

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Old 04-22-2008, 10:20 PM #33
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I'm pretty sure you have the correct part for Egos, at least- never poked around in a DM4+ or a Mac Dev gun, though. If you can confirm that the plugs are the same that would be super. ZH series is what Eclipse uses, though. As for the male part, I can't say with any certainty, but both your candidates look solid to me.
yeah dude all the same, i have an MQ valve with a eclipse eblade Housing, and it plugged right into the MacDev board Header, and i also used DM noid harnesses with the same sized Housings to solder my noid and other parts into MD headers

btw a MD board uses 5 Housings for Battery, noid, trigger, and 2 eyes, so it is an easy replacement if you know anyone with Dye Eclipse or MD noid harnesses, the Housings are all the same!

but im wondering if the crimps i found all fit into the Housing, but are made for different gauge wires, i would like to get the biggest crimps possible, and those headers......whats the diff?




one thing to worry about is the Timmy/Kee/Quest/ICD Promaster/Raceframe all use the same housings and headers as well, but are just a hair smaller than the Eclipse/Dye/MD, i hope not to get those ones



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the diff from the 455-1367-ND and the 455-1657-ND is that the 455-1367-ND Contains lead and is RoHS non-compliant everything else should be the same. also the size is the same to the Eclipse DYE and MD so far, unless i dont know what they are measuring from

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Old 04-23-2008, 02:27 AM #34
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Wait: to be clear, I should be listing that 455-1657-ND as the male on-board terminal for DMs, MDs, Eclipse two-pin connections?

I appreciate the links, I got more complete P#s for these common plugs, and the indication that they are the same on Mac Dev, Dye, and Eclipse markers means trhat a lot of guns are covered. I need, I guess, to get the crimp P#s for these guns, as well as the ones for Timmy/Kee/Quest/ICD Promaster/Raceframe... or do I have those?

I am the worst compiler. I will look at this again tomorrow with fresh eyes.

jdubau55: is the white male on-wire connector used in the Timmy BBS listed in the image you linked earlier? I am uncertain if I might have missed that. I am thinking that what I am looking for is a 1.25mm pitch JST connector of some sort.
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Old 04-23-2008, 03:42 AM #35
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All of the Angel models from LCD through A1 use the same solenoid connector as the DM series guns.
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:00 AM #36
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Wait: to be clear, I should be listing that 455-1657-ND as the male on-board terminal for DMs, MDs, Eclipse two-pin connections?
the female that solders to the noid is the 455-1366-ND, i think that the one that is on the board is the 1657, but i would have to get one in my hands, also i never put one on board, but just soldered 2 wires to make an adapter to use the noid on a different board harness

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I appreciate the links, I got more complete P#s for these common plugs, and the indication that they are the same on Mac Dev, Dye, and Eclipse markers means trhat a lot of guns are covered. I need, I guess, to get the crimp P#s for these guns, as well as the ones for Timmy/Kee/Quest/ICD Promaster/Raceframe... or do I have those?
yeah dude all those 3 companies use the same housing and so the headers as well

and i know for sure Timmy, Quest, and Raceframes use the same sized Header and Housing, just by association im assuming all KEE and ICD would use the same, But im not sure where, i see the plugs and i know the size, but not sure if its noid or even Eyes.....


well if anyone wants to buy me 2000(minimum order) of each the 1367 1366 and the 1657 ill be glad to confirm hahaha.......please? oh and ill need crimps

BTW that is the Sites catalog number the Manufacturer Part Number is ZHR-2 and is called a CONN HOUSING ZH 2POS 1.5MM WHT, but its in the links.....but we should post Manufacturer Part Numbers over catalog #s


Strangelove....NICE!
DYE Eclipse MacDev WDP(up to A1) all use same Noid housings!!!!! woot

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Old 04-23-2008, 01:55 PM #37
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I simply listed each p#, so that someone could find the part somewhere. 2000 is a lot! I thought you could get smaller amounts from Mouser.

Thank you Dr. Strangelove! That is good news.
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is the ego noid listed consistent with all ego's, including etek's? i really need the etek plug.
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Old 09-06-2008, 07:00 PM #39
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p. sure that all the Eclipse connectors are the same, so you should be good!
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wish i had seen this thread a month ago >.< woulda saved me a few bucks. would like to see a sticky on it for easy access and future updates.
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Old 09-07-2008, 04:48 PM #41
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theres a guy that sells really good priced harnesses for the noid, where you solder it to the noid and you have the housing pre-crimped to the wires


erasyer i think is his username, i cant find his page atm
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That would be a good link, and I would edit the first post to show it if you can turn it up.

I wish this had gotten stickied, but I added it to my sig so that I can always find it, since it didn't happen.
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