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Old 05-13-2012, 09:07 PM #1
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Need Help with Freeflow Lotus Pump

For reference, we are talking about the Lotus in this picture. It's a pretty old photo, but nothing has changed since it was taken. It's a bit of a Frankengun, and these are the parts it's comprised of:

-Freeflow Lotus body
-CCM (I think) pump kit
-Dye Grip-frame
-Dye Boomstick
-Ion ASA
-Kapp detent
-Crap delrin bolt
-Karnivor Reg




QUESTION 1
The problem I've run into is that the threading in the body for attaching the grip-frame has striped. The previous owner fixed the problem with some sort of spring type thing that was shoved up in there. Those have since pulled out, leaving a huge mess for me.

The fix that I decided on was to tap it for bigger screws. So far, I've drilled the grip-frame to accept the larger screws, and tapped the rear of the marker-body to accept the larger screw. This has worked out wonderfully. So here's my problem... The area for the front screw to attach to the frame is too shallow for my tap. The way my tap starts, it won't start cutting new threads until it is a quarter inch or so deep. Is this something that I can drill further (or will I start damaging the valve), or do I need to cut my tap to accommodate. I'm a total noob at this, and don't want to screw this marker up more than it already has been. For reference, the second screw needs to go into the hole on the far right of this picture.



QUESTION TWO

My second questions has to deal with the bolt. The thing has swollen and does not want to fit into the marker anymore. I think someone may have gotten some oil or lube on it. I've had the marker sitting in pieces for about a year, and it doesn't appear to have shrunk at all since. Is there anyway to fix this, or should I be looking at buying a new bolt? If I need a new bolt... Is there a certain kind that will fit it, or will any autococker bolt do?




Thanks for any help guys. I really appreciate it!
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:51 PM #2
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drill and tap a new hole in the body and frame.
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:00 PM #3
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Quote:
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drill and tap a new hole in the body and frame.
Okay, but how deep can I drill?
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Old 05-14-2012, 01:38 AM #4
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The springs you pulled out, is called Heli Coils, it`s pretty much new threads that you glue in. If you can get it done, it`s an easy way with no drilling.

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Old 05-14-2012, 07:25 AM #5
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As Silentgrave said those spring things are called Heli-Coils, they are used to fixed stripped threads. There are different tap of taps available, sounds like yours is a taper tap. What you want is a bottom tap, it will start cutting threads from the beginning and will give your threads the length of your hole.
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Old 05-14-2012, 10:45 AM #6
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Awesome. Thanks guys. Looks like I'll be stopping at ACE on the way home.
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Old 05-14-2012, 12:56 PM #7
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About your swollen bolt: quickest way to fix that is to sand it down to fit. Use fairly high grit sandpaper like 400-600 and be careful not to sand too much in one spot cuz you don't want to make any flat parts. Go slow and check periodically until you've got the bolt thinned down enough to fit back in the marker.
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Old 05-14-2012, 01:21 PM #8
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Awesome! I will pick up some sandpaper along with the blind tap.

I really appreciate your guys's help. This marker, when I traded for it, was pretty solid. However, over time the "quick-fixes" from previous owners have really deteriorated and I'm doing my best to restore it to its former glory. Really... Thank you.

Also, if you guys don't mind me asking your opinions, how do you feel about me drilling and tapping new threads? Is it a better fix than the heli-coils? I've had to drill the grip frame too, so I'm kind of stuck with it now... But do you all feel that it will hold up longer?
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:35 PM #9
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the bolt is i think, nylatron. they don't like humidity and will swell, as you found out. instead of sanding it, if you can put it in a dehumidifier it should shrink back. i had mine, sitting in the gun for about a year, as i was waiting on that project and the same thing happened to mine. its a pain, but explore different avenues before sanding. as you can never put back material that you've taken off. if anything, chock the bolt in a variable speed drill and just hold the sand paper to it. do it in small steps and check it against the gun. you want something that is tight, but not like throwing a hot dog down a hallway, if you get my drift.
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Old 05-14-2012, 04:02 PM #10
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I don't have dehumidifier, but I may try baking it for a little, or doing the good ol' "shoebox and dryer" trick before sanding. If I end up sanding it, I'll definitely error on the side of caution and take as little off as I can at a time. I will definitely be attaching the bolt to a power drill and sanding it that way to keep it uniform.

I'm pretty ignorant when comes to this stuff, so I appreciate everyone who has taken the time to help me. Thanks!
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Old 05-14-2012, 07:24 PM #11
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Im glad I decided to read through, I can see those Heli-Coils coming in handy at some point or another. Also good luck on the project!
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Old 05-14-2012, 08:14 PM #12
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for the back frame hole, itll be fine going through, for the front, im not sure where that is in relation to the valve, so i cant say. But i would try to either grind the end of your tap off or get whats known as a bottoming tap.

as for the bolt, i would just sand it, no sense trying to dry it out when its just going to swell back up when you have humidity. ill bet you can find a nice bolt on ebay or something that'll fit your needs.

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Old 05-15-2012, 08:52 AM #13
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in the future, instead of drilling and tapping, I'd find someone that can insert another heli-coil. if done correctly, it should last the life of the marker.
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