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Old 05-31-2012, 11:01 PM #841
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It seems to be personal preference between the two.
No, not at all actually. The V1 is superior to the Escort x50. Now, if we were talking about a Redline or Stir +, then personal preferences would fall into place.
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Old 06-01-2012, 12:53 AM #842
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Oh really? Most everything I've seen in direct comparisons supports the x50 and V1, as per detection ranges, are more or less the same.

I mean, if little arrows make a big difference to you, sure. To me, however, I'm slamming on my brakes long before I'm checking to see where it's coming from.

To be honest, if you do a lot of driving in unfamiliar areas, the 9500 is the best per price. The whole GPS thing allows for speed cameras and all. Highly useful, if I didn't have it on my GPS already.

TLDR: Here's a great write-up over the Bel vs Escort vs Valentine
http://www.laserveil.com/en/ultimate...5/conclusions/
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:13 AM #843
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Oh really? Most everything I've seen in direct comparisons supports the x50 and V1, as per detection ranges, are more or less the same.

I mean, if little arrows make a big difference to you, sure. To me, however, I'm slamming on my brakes long before I'm checking to see where it's coming from.

To be honest, if you do a lot of driving in unfamiliar areas, the 9500 is the best per price. The whole GPS thing allows for speed cameras and all. Highly useful, if I didn't have it on my GPS already.

TLDR: Here's a great write-up over the Bel vs Escort vs Valentine
http://www.laserveil.com/en/ultimate...5/conclusions/
That write-up is pretty old.

Range is only one part of it. V1s are known for being extremely sensitive to short bursts, such as those of instant-on... A big threat in many areas.

http://www.guysoflidar.com/radar-det...rld-tests.html

I have both a 9500ix and a V1... While the 9500ix is, no doubt, a great detector, the V1 is still better IMO. I've been tempted to try out a Redline for a while now and had actually ordered one but cancelled it last minute. Maybe I'll give it a shot in the future.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:52 AM #844
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Most of the reviews I found, from any website, agreed there are personal preferences. However, they all agreed that, as far as function is concerned, they are more or less equal. Obviously, given GPS, 9500 wins. So it's more fair to compare it to the x50.
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:36 PM #845
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Oh really? Most everything I've seen in direct comparisons supports the x50 and V1, as per detection ranges, are more or less the same.

I mean, if little arrows make a big difference to you, sure. To me, however, I'm slamming on my brakes long before I'm checking to see where it's coming from.

To be honest, if you do a lot of driving in unfamiliar areas, the 9500 is the best per price. The whole GPS thing allows for speed cameras and all. Highly useful, if I didn't have it on my GPS already.

TLDR: Here's a great write-up over the Bel vs Escort vs Valentine
http://www.laserveil.com/en/ultimate...5/conclusions/

I've owned and tested all three detectors, and I can tell you without a doubt that the x50 is superior to the V1.

And the "little arrows" is only one feature that the V1 offers that other detectors don't. There are also other features such as bogey counter, ESP...etc that separate the V1 from the x50 (or any detector for that matter)

And I get a bit confused because you asked about the x50, but then you start talking about the 9500ix.

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http://www.laserveil.com/en/ultimate...5/conclusions/
This review is super old. If you want to read real reviews and actually learn cold hard facts about the detectors you are comparing join this forum:

http://www.radardetectorforum.org/wi...itle=Main_Page

I'm a moderator there. You will learn much more there than you will from google.
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:47 PM #846
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Just moved to the LA area not too long ago, will cops bust your balls about detectors?
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:23 PM #847
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I've owned and tested all three detectors, and I can tell you without a doubt that the x50 is superior to the V1.

And the "little arrows" is only one feature that the V1 offers that other detectors don't. There are also other features such as bogey counter, ESP...etc that separate the V1 from the x50 (or any detector for that matter)

And I get a bit confused because you asked about the x50, but then you start talking about the 9500ix.



This review is super old. If you want to read real reviews and actually learn cold hard facts about the detectors you are comparing join this forum:

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I agree it seemed outdated, but it was the best I could find on short notice. Thanks for the writeup, I will be checking the forums for sure.
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my friend just got a valentine one hardwired into his gto, works great..im thinking about getting one, cops are sneaky late at night on the highway in new york
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So is that V1 better than the x50?
I couldn't find too many in-depth comparisons.
I'm trying to find the same answer
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:47 PM #850
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V1 is better than the X50 by far.

V1 is IMO the best windshield-mounted detector, and arguably the best detector period.

http://www.guysoflidar.com/radar-det...rld-tests.html
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And I will reiterate, I remember in my search, just about every review I saw said the X50 had a little longer range when it came to radar. The V1 was a little better against Laser and had the direction indicator.

However, so many different field reviews and tests said different things, it's hard to choose what's truly best.

For me, I know I could go to Best Buy and get an X50. So that's what I did.
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Am I correct by assuming that the differences between a $50 detector and a $250 is the sensitivity and the effective range?

Thinking about picking up a Whistler Xtr-335 or 265.
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Yes. And maybe a few other features but that's, of course, the biggest deal.

Think of them like condoms. You can use a brand new Trojan condom you just bought at the store, or you could use the one from that shoddy gas station bathroom that has been sitting in your wallet for months. They will both get the job done, but one will actually protect you a LOT better, and one only really gives you a false sense of security.

If I didn't have the money for a X50/V1/similar detector/better, I wouldn't worry.
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And I will reiterate, I remember in my search, just about every review I saw said the X50 had a little longer range when it came to radar. The V1 was a little better against Laser and had the direction indicator.

However, so many different field reviews and tests said different things, it's hard to choose what's truly best.

For me, I know I could go to Best Buy and get an X50. So that's what I did.
1. Range is not everything
2. Valentine still has better range in most all cases minus certain Ka frequencies
3. V1 is extremely sensitive to short bursts of radar... Instant on, a big threat

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8500 is a great detector. I'm not knocking it. But it's not on the same level as the V1.
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my issue with the V1 is a million falses constantly. The 9500 has GPS which REALLY cuts down on the number of falses. Driving the R8 when the detector went off it was always a cop. Saved my *** 2 or 3 times and my friend at least once in about a 3-4 hour period. I think he might switch to the 9500ci, if he does I'll try to buy his ix from him. Otherwise I'll get my own 9500ix eventually.
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my issue with the V1 is a million falses constantly. The 9500 has GPS which REALLY cuts down on the number of falses. Driving the R8 when the detector went off it was always a cop. Saved my *** 2 or 3 times and my friend at least once in about a 3-4 hour period. I think he might switch to the 9500ci, if he does I'll try to buy his ix from him. Otherwise I'll get my own 9500ix eventually.
I've got a 9500ix as does my dad. I like it but I am so used to the V1 that I don't seem to trust my 9500. With the right settings, the V1 can be quieted down pretty well.
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my issue with the V1 is a million falses constantly. The 9500 has GPS which REALLY cuts down on the number of falses. Driving the R8 when the detector went off it was always a cop. Saved my *** 2 or 3 times and my friend at least once in about a 3-4 hour period. I think he might switch to the 9500ci, if he does I'll try to buy his ix from him. Otherwise I'll get my own 9500ix eventually.
Yes, the V1 will false. The V1 falses because it's an extremely sensitive detector. The 9500ix is not as sensitive or fast as the V1, period. It may have GPS and "eliminate false alerts". But what if a cop is sitting near one of those "false alerts" locations(CVS, Walgreens)? Your 9500ix will lock it out. I've seen this happen with my own eyes, and it's not a good feeling.

V1 has also built a product called "savvy", which you can check out on Valentine's website. In a nut shell you attach savvy to your OBD port, set it to a threshold speed (i.e. 40 mph's) and the V1 will automatically mute all alerts unless you are going over 40 mph's. This quiets the V1 down immensely.

Regardless, noisy detector > getting a ticket

And don't get the 9500ci... get the Stir +, if you're going to get a remote installed detector.
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1. Range is not everything
2. Valentine still has better range in most all cases minus certain Ka frequencies
3. V1 is extremely sensitive to short bursts of radar... Instant on, a big threat

K Band
[img]http://www.guysoflidar.com/radar-detector-test-august-2009/k-band-graph.gif[/ig]

Ka Band 33.8
[img]http://www.guysoflidar.com/radar-detector-test-august-2009/338-graph.gif[/ig]

Ka Band 35.5 (Where V1 had issues, still beating 8500x50
[img]http://www.guysoflidar.com/radar-detector-test-august-2009/355-graph.gif[/mg]

Instant On
[img]http://www.guysoflidar.com/radar-detector-test-august-2009/instant-on-1.gif[/ig]

8500 is a great detector. I'm not knocking it. But it's not on the same level as the V1.
Again, I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying that different places said different things. I read some reviews of people saying the 8500 outdid it.. This is why when I got one, I just got the one I could get local. It was easy and was plug and play.

Is the V1 better? Maybe. Some reviews seem to think/prove so.

Oh, and false alerts don't bother me that much. I live in the middle of nowhere, my daily drive has one spot that kicks up for a second then drops. And it's an Xband so it's easily ignored.
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Yes, the V1 will false. The V1 falses because it's an extremely sensitive detector. The 9500ix is not as sensitive or fast as the V1, period. It may have GPS and "eliminate false alerts". But what if a cop is sitting near one of those "false alerts" locations(CVS, Walgreens)? Your 9500ix will lock it out. I've seen this happen with my own eyes, and it's not a good feeling.

V1 has also built a product called "savvy", which you can check out on Valentine's website. In a nut shell you attach savvy to your OBD port, set it to a threshold speed (i.e. 40 mph's) and the V1 will automatically mute all alerts unless you are going over 40 mph's. This quiets the V1 down immensely.

Regardless, noisy detector > getting a ticket

And don't get the 9500ci... get the Stir +, if you're going to get a remote installed detector.
Problem with so many falses is your either forced to never speed (oh the huge manatee) or you end up tuning the thing out.
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Problem with so many falses is your either forced to never speed (oh the huge manatee) or you end up tuning the thing out.
If you can't tell that false alerts are are K band and X band (X band should be turned off unless you live in a state like New Jersey, where it is still used), you simply should not own a radar detector period. I live in middle of Hartford CT and own a V1. It's very easy to distinguish between falses. Walgreens/CVS/Banks emit K band and some older banks emit X. Turn X off unless it's used in your area (which there is a very slim chance it is). I've been running my V1 for over 3 years in busy cities and have never "tuned" it out.
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K can still be cops here. X was turned off. Still annoying. Would go off for strong K for like ten miles on I95 for no apparent reason.
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