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Old 04-04-2008, 03:28 AM #22
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honestly sp made dlx to be the chevy to gmc, the name is to associate w/ more luxurious markers/cars sp knows there rep., but i guarntee there is no driving force to make a new company when they already are pulling in the big bucks from the incoming players, who honestly havent discovered pbn, imagine w/o 2nd hand guns what the profit margins for companies would be.
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:57 AM #23
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Back when I started playing, paint was 2500 rounds per case, at $50-60 depending on the brand. I wouldn't say that's an example of getting cheaper

Anyways, the only thing I wanted to say was that royalities are a ***** sometimes. But you pick your tail up, wipe your tears away, and pay them. That's how you get your product out into the real world, and you'll still make a killing selling it given the cost markup these days. It's but a production cost that stands in the way of you making your parts, not a villianous plot to destroy your business and ideas.
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:00 PM #24
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You guys all act like DLX is trying to pull the wool over your eyes. If DLX didn't tell you that they were a sister company to smart parts 99% of you wouldn't know it. If this was truly for PR reasons, smart parts would of located DLX away from western PA and not announced that it was a sister company....

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Old 04-04-2008, 02:02 PM #25
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Back when I started playing, paint was 2500 rounds per case, at $50-60 depending on the brand. I wouldn't say that's an example of getting cheaper

Anyways, the only thing I wanted to say was that royalities are a ***** sometimes. But you pick your tail up, wipe your tears away, and pay them. That's how you get your product out into the real world, and you'll still make a killing selling it given the cost markup these days. It's but a production cost that stands in the way of you making your parts, not a villianous plot to destroy your business and ideas.
yus! i miss 2500 cases i even remember places that sold 4800... a kid in town who was actually first person i knew of in the area that played use to buy them in a big 4800 ct box that he got from some store.

And for 2nd part, couldnt have said it better. The people who just hear/read and say the same things over and over is just getting old. Since there is always bits and pieces missing. Just like ppl saying AGD is dead bc of sp.. BS. AKA.. they had their chance, ICD did too, they took the chance still couldnt produce a marker to keep up and failed bc of it.
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:18 PM #26
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the luxe, at 1500, is waaaay over priced. i could see it being more successful at around the 900-1000 range.

really, it's a glorified ion with a gas thru grip. and i dont even like the gas thru idea.
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:42 PM #27
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the luxe, at 1500, is waaaay over priced. i could see it being more successful at around the 900-1000 range.

really, it's a glorified ion with a gas thru grip. and i dont even like the gas thru idea.
What part of this gun operates like an ion?

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What part of this gun operates like an ion?

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Must be the fact that its a single tube, spoolie with no lpr, and the bolt system isnt atleast 4 pieces. Seems to be any gun like that is instantly a ion...
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Old 04-04-2008, 03:24 PM #29
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Must be the fact that its a single tube, spoolie with no lpr, and the bolt system isnt atleast 4 pieces. Seems to be any gun like that is instantly a ion...
I wonder if these same people pass a honda and wonder if it is a mazaradi...

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I love this post. I really do. SP is pretty much the only company pushing paintball into the future. They've spent tons of money to make the biggest paintball hit on TV to date. And are putting a positive image on the sport and doing the best they can. Although tards like yourself only see the company for here'say which is always "omgz they sued like some companies" 2 companies.. whoopity freakin' doo.
Settle down buddy, I wasn't trying to make anybody angry. I remember Smart Parts airing that tournament on television (I know I acted like they haven't done anything of the sort in my post) and I applaud them for it; but they need to continue such things. All I'm saying is, its a simple concept of supply and demand, if Smart Parts "continues" to further paintball by giving it more publicity, (and we all know that they've got the funds more so than any other pb company) more people will gravitate to the sport, and with a higher number of consumers, all companies will be able to lower their prices. All this was meant to be was a suggestion for the betterment of paintball. By the way, calling me a tard only makes you look bad. If you can't get your point across without insulting me, that doesn't speak well of yourself. Good day.
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I wonder if these same people pass a honda and wonder if it is a mazaradi...

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doubt it, bc we all know theres only 1 guy on earth that drives one of those... *hint* his name starts with a S and hes on a popular singing tv show.
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man when sp has a monopily the pb world will suck youd have to basically shoot the same kind of gun all the time, half the fun of pb is that not everyone shoots the same thing that you can go out and buy what you feel like buying and shoot what you want, it would be like if nascar was the only channel, i think id kill myself. i would straight out quit pb. on top of that if they have a monopoly what compitition will there be to drive there prices down? sanata claus bringing brand new guns from long lost companies at christmas time? i don't know about you but i dont have that much faith in santa
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I AGREE WITH YOU BUT I THINK SP DID SOMETHING GOOD WHEN THEY WENT FOR THE LOW END GUNS I MEAN WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THE NEW PLAYERS BUY THE NEW O8 EGOS AND CRAP WHEN THEY FIRST START AND MAKE THE SPORT LOOK LIKE THE ONLY WAY YOU GET TO BE GOOD IS IF YOUR RICH OR HAVE THEM START LOW END AND GET BETTER WITH LESS QUALITY AND WORK THER WAY INTO THE HIGHER END, i MEAN WE ALL STARTED CHEAP.
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The Luxe looks quality. Too bad I couldnt even shoot one until next season.
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the luxe looks horrible. and this gun will go no where unless its put in the hands of a reputable pro team.
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the luxe looks horrible. and this gun will go no where unless its put in the hands of a reputable pro team.
Just wondering, when did sponsoring a team ever save a failing gun?

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man when sp has a monopily the pb world will suck youd have to basically shoot the same kind of gun all the time, half the fun of pb is that not everyone shoots the same thing that you can go out and buy what you feel like buying and shoot what you want, it would be like if nascar was the only channel, i think id kill myself. i would straight out quit pb. on top of that if they have a monopoly what compitition will there be to drive there prices down? sanata claus bringing brand new guns from long lost companies at christmas time? i don't know about you but i dont have that much faith in santa
that made no sense what so ever.
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that made no sense what so ever.
arrgh, beat me to it.


and a bunch of pros are shooting the luxe. but thats neither here nor there. did sell your car because your favorite nascar driver just switched from chevy to toyota? sell your guitar because toby mcguire changed his guitars color? switch to pabst blue ribbon from those good ol' hurricanes cause your favorite hobo swears by them? the point is that what pros use really has no effect on what people buy. maybe some people, but i like to pretend they dont exist.
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Good to see some debate.

But a lot of what I'm seeing is extreme. Even if SP becomes the major paintball company, it would never take over the entire industry.

Compare the items of dye, and the rising eclipse, to SP.

Dye has tanks, guns, masks, pants, jerseys, gloves, pads.. pods...

Eclipse has guns, pads, pants, jerseys..

SP, guns and some pants and jerseys but they aren't nearly as popular as dye's.
And their tanks? how many people buy maxflo vs cp/dxs/crossfire... etc.

SP, or any business, isn't going to completely take over the PB industry, at least not in some coup de grace within the next decade.

SP has a very long way to go to catch up to dye, but i think through their starting low, and then moving to high, will be more efficient than starting high and moving low.
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you seem to know everything. you tell me.
Thats like me saying "The lux is just a glorified remote control, you tell me why"

If you are going to say "its an ion" at least be able to back up why you feel that way if someone asks...

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