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Old 04-02-2008, 11:08 PM #43
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can't be priced higher than the rs at 184.00 at my local paintball store aa paintball
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Old 04-03-2008, 09:58 AM #44
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So does this have a normal Spyder valve and striker? If so, I might pick one up and put my NDZ valve and ACP striker in one, sell my CCM Heli-Clamp and get one with Ion threads.
These have inline holes right? If so then I got a CP direct mount to put on.

Does anybody have info about the MSRP?
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:19 AM #45
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I think you're giving kingman too much credit. Most likely just due to the new board, but I have no electrical knowledge so yeah.
Boards can't pull wattage out of nowhere. It's gotta be a mechanical change.
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:55 AM #46
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So does this have a normal Spyder valve and striker? If so, I might pick one up and put my NDZ valve and ACP striker in one, sell my CCM Heli-Clamp and get one with Ion threads.
These have inline holes right? If so then I got a CP direct mount to put on.

Does anybody have info about the MSRP?

It has a rail.

edit: scratch that...I forgot I was in the pilot thread, thought I was in the electra one lol. As for the MSRP, even kingman's customer service doesn't have the MSRP yet.
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:00 PM #47
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Scratch that...I forgot I was in the pilot thread, thought I was in the electra one lol. As for the MSRP, even kingman's customer service doesn't have the MSRP yet.
They do. It's just that they aren't allowed to say just yet
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:40 AM #48
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It has a rail.

edit: scratch that...I forgot I was in the pilot thread, thought I was in the electra one lol. As for the MSRP, even kingman's customer service doesn't have the MSRP yet.
What about my other questions?
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:04 AM #49
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What about my other questions?
as far as the internals go, it doesn't mention anything about the synergy or LP so I would assume it is standard sypder internals, but won't know for sure until we can gut one lol.
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:27 AM #50
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I think I can hear the gut it chants already, and it hasn't even gone on sale yet!

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Old 04-04-2008, 10:29 AM #51
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LOL yeah me too very faint in the distance "gut it, gut it, gut it!"
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:46 AM #52
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well, considering its almost 2 inches shorter than a normal spyder, i doubt it uses standard internals. i'm guessing vs striker and a new bolt (connector pin further forward.
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:50 AM #53
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I was mostly refering to the valve, but yeah I see what you mean.
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:09 PM #54
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I believe it will have internals similar to the RS, but without the front reg. It does have a standard VA, so adding a good front regulator will allow you to get it down around 300psi.

P.S. - I don't think the pictures do either this or the Electra justice. They are very small and extremly comfortable in your hand.
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:11 PM #55
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you don't happen to have one on hand, do you? i'd like to get exact measurements to compare it to the numbers i came up with in the electra thread.
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:41 PM #56
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looks too simple ...llike gaw dam
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Old 04-05-2008, 12:41 AM #57
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I believe it will have internals similar to the RS, but without the front reg. It does have a standard VA, so adding a good front regulator will allow you to get it down around 300psi.
300psi? So it must have LP internals, but it doesn't come with a reg to drop the pressure? I was under the impression that the Pilot was HP and the Electra was more like the VS/RS.

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Old 04-05-2008, 12:48 AM #58
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Boards can't pull wattage out of nowhere. It's gotta be a mechanical change.
I think its just higher noid dwell. Gun looks very compact and light, IMO the VS1 was a fricken feather so this should be even lighter.

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Old 04-05-2008, 01:35 AM #59
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^ A higher noid dwell would drain a 9v within the swiftness. 9Vs right now CAN be used, but the draw is too high. They must've changed something to make the use of 9Vs possible.
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Old 04-05-2008, 02:46 AM #60
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mayby a smaller noid?
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:29 AM #61
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I think its just higher noid dwell.
As mentioned, that would just drain the battery faster. For this to work, they'd need a smaller wattage solinoid, or something that allows much shorter dwell.
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Old 04-05-2008, 11:45 AM #62
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I really hope it's smaller. Man I need to get some money in the bank for this summer... and quickly.
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Old 04-05-2008, 03:37 PM #63
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I really hope it's smaller. Man I need to get some money in the bank for this summer... and quickly.
I didn't say anything about the physical size. Just smaller wattage.
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