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Old 04-02-2008, 06:29 PM #22
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youre just looking at the body...
That's true, but its plastic, I've had my frame blow on me, so I'm impartial to plastic frames. But yeah there are lots of great features, I want to see what someone who buys it thinks
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:14 PM #23
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Hmm... another example as to why Kingman's industrial design team is always a hit or miss. In this case, a miss.

Things to notice though:
- It's no longer a compact-body Spyder design (no T-shaped vertical adapter). This leads me to believe it may finally be another full-body Spyder (ironically more compact than a compact-body Spyder).
- How might the valve, valve pin, and valve spring removed? Recessed endcap? How would a flat endcap look with the angled front of the bottom tube?

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Old 04-02-2008, 07:21 PM #24
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P.S. - For those that have always complained about the 9.6V batteries, these will run off a standard 9V.
Oh lawdy yes!


I like how they are getting magnetic triggers stock.
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:22 PM #25
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ITS AN ENTRY LEVEL GUN< WHO CARES IT RUNS At 850psi? This is a perfect design for what its made for.
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:35 PM #26
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- How might the valve, valve pin, and valve spring removed? Recessed endcap? How would a flat endcap look with the angled front of the bottom tube?
methinks you're right. reminds me of BE/JT/VL guns, but high end guns have em too, so its nothing to freak about.

and ferrets right, but i still think its fugly!
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Old 04-02-2008, 08:59 PM #27
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Battery change means there's a new solinoid or sear design.

My god, an actual new spyder. :-) While this will provide us with support headaches.... Dude. You guys engineered a new spyder. Yey!
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:38 PM #28
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Battery change means there's a new solinoid or sear design.
I think you're giving kingman too much credit. Most likely just due to the new board, but I have no electrical knowledge so yeah.
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:47 PM #29
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If we were to convert to LP. I wonder if performance will decrease without the LPC. I've managed to get my esprit LP using the no LPC VA, but I had to hollow the VA a bit in order to do so... Very interesting.

I'm loving the frame though
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:48 PM #30
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If we were to convert to LP. I wonder if performance will decrease without the LPC. I've managed to get my esprit LP using the no LPC VA, but I had to hollow the VA a bit in order to do so... Very interesting.

I'm loving the frame though
The only reason I wanted to LP before was so I could have less kick. If they use a lighter striker I'd have no problems running HP
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:50 PM #31
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The way they balanced the gun, forward frame, it shouldn't really kick much... You guys remember my AMG Electra? Well I was running at HP and I had minimal kick. I could only imagine what it would be like LP.

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Old 04-02-2008, 09:52 PM #32
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and i still dont believe you sold it
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:54 PM #33
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:56 PM #34
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just cuz ur opty ill let this one slide
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:00 PM #35
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methinks you're right. reminds me of BE/JT/VL guns, but high end guns have em too, so its nothing to freak about.

and ferrets right, but i still think its fugly!
my problem is their colors are awfull choices their to flat or their to crayola(though the electra look sic in that black.
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:05 PM #36
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yeah, i miss the cobalt xtra, green e99, light blue xtra, and tan "classic" colors..
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:10 PM #37
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even the faded designs on the aggresor or those splash patterns look better that a plain silver or a plain red,

well i got to go good night and do we have a release date?Ignore me if this has aready been asked in the thread
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:44 PM #39
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Ewwwww............... i hate the new milling on the spyders too cheapy looking
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:50 PM #40
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I'm not digging the pilot too much, but the electra looks sweet.
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Old 04-02-2008, 11:03 PM #41
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don't you just love competive marketing? For 180 some odd dollars you can get a world of difference from what kingman was offering in 2005 when the pilot acs o5 came out, this new pilot would probably cost 400 dollars back then. Amazing kingman can afford to offer it at such a low price. maybe that e-99 avant i bought in 2004 really was marked up really high ...hmmm.
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Old 04-02-2008, 11:04 PM #42
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well we don't actually know a price yet. I asked kingman earlier and the customer service people don't even know the MSRP
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