[ProblemKinder]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Good Luck to DLX.$1500 no I wont buy one.

that quick release to remove the internals was all ready done by Pickadoll marker.

not to mention AGD. also didn't SP just come out with two markers with very easy to remove internals? aren't those guns supposed to be wicked awesome and cost a tiny fraction of the price this "luxury" paintball marker costs?

[protokid1453]

We could all sign up for a pyramid scam and pay $500!

[RavagersTC]

Here, how about this, just to toot my own horn....


I spent about 600 or 700 building my cocker. It shoots just as nice and fast as anything else out there. Ego's, dm's, etc. Will people believe it at face value? No. It will take me shooting them with it and showing them, but the point remains, buying new paintball guns is a pointless endeavor. Putting a board with all kinds of ramping modes and what not will make them all shoot the same speed. A good reg and barrel will make it consistent and shazam, you have a gun that will shoot 15bps ball on ball. After that, what more is there to do?



Shave weight. Add fancy colors and milling. But, if you're looking at the performance aspect, I believe you'll find it hard to justify spending twice what one marker would cost for another that would do the exact same thing.


That leaves efficiency and reliability. Any gun kept maintained will work. And xball matches last a couple of minutes and along with unlimited air efficiency is kinda pointless.



I believe I've made my point. Buying a new marker is useless when yesterdays technology will do the job just as well.

[PB-Gangsta]

im going to get one =] but im gunna have to save for like a year=[

[spr316]

Originally Posted by PB-Gangsta

im going to get one =] but im gunna have to save for like a year=[

same here man

[sandflea_97]

This gun already has a negative aura to so many people. Yeah, you might be able to reach a similar level of performance with a $600 gun, but in this market it's all about preference. If you don't prefer the Luxe over your old cocker than don't buy the damn thing. It's that simple.

[RavagersTC]

Originally Posted by sandflea_97

This gun already has a negative aura to so many people. Yeah, you might be able to reach a similar level of performance with a $600 gun, but in this market it's all about preference. If you don't prefer the Luxe over your old cocker than don't buy the damn thing. It's that simple.

And you better believe I ****ing won't, if for no reason other than its more smart parts garbage. Garbage from the same company whos owner is so insecure about his penis size he sues every other company for a patented technology he doesn't even utilize most of the time, the prick. There, there's my 2 cents about smart parts. I outlined the sensible reasons why this gun is useless, and now you got the ethical side.

[xsn0man]

Originally Posted by RavagersTC

And you better believe I ****ing won't, if for no reason other than its more smart parts garbage. Garbage from the same company whos owner is so insecure about his penis size he sues every other company for a patented technology he doesn't even utilize most of the time, the prick. There, there's my 2 cents about smart parts. I outlined the sensible reasons why this gun is useless, and now you got the ethical side.

thats.......actually hilarious. if i had a rant.txt, where i put the silliest rants i have ever seen, it would be there...

so you hate the gun, and not just that gun, ALL new guns cause yours is better. then you say not only do you disdain new guns, SP guns hold a special place in your own private hell because of the gardeners collective penis envy.
nice one.


people will pay for whatever they value. youre not the one "wasting" your money, so why must you come here and troll the people who want one? congratulations, you hate it, who gives a ****.

personally, i think its a cool idea. way overpriced, but i hope the speaker + the modular design works out. i love modular design. ****, i wish EVERYTHING was designed modularly. it would be awesome. i hope the luxe captures a decent market so this trickles down to more affordable guns.

[f.t.m. electra]

a reasonable price for that gun is 800+, thats it

[xsn0man]

...except the fact that very few users know anything about the marker, who are you to judge what the cost is, or the pricetag? im gonna go ahead and assume you have never touched/shot/ personally seen the marker, so your opinion here really has no basis in fact. you saw a picture, and made a judgment on that. you have no idea of the production costs, agreements with SP, distribution costs, or manufacturing costs. the handbuilt/tuned aspect of them boosts the price, and there is limited availability. its not mass marketed and produced like the DMs, shockers, and egos are. its built and tuned for you before you even get it. that costs an enormous amount of money.

honestly, if your going to cry and ***** about price, this marker isnt for you.



i wish there were more people cluttering this forum and stopping me from finding the info that i want

[Exilict]

Originally Posted by f.t.m. electra

a reasonable price for that gun is 800+, thats it

What made you come to that conclusion?

-X

[Exilict]

Originally Posted by RavagersTC

I outlined the sensible reasons why this gun is useless, and now you got the ethical side.

Useless? It has use, it shoots paint... Maybe you and I have a different meaning of the word useless?

-X

[kAmAkAzEe]

I plan on buying one, at least over the summer once I finish getting hired(police departments take forever), but I want to use my GA Myth/Luxfer tank, and still have the macroline-less setup, so I hope it comes with a bottom line that feeds up through the grip or an aftermarket company like CP comes out with one so I don't have to buy a reg to replace the max-flo front reg I can imagine it coming with(just personal preferences over max-flo), other than that I'm very excited to try this gun, only other preference I'd have is go with a matching color barrel over chrome, but at least that's easy to take care of...

[♣SHINEONE3♣]

But Keep in mind.. If the price is "$1500" .. That includes gun and tank, if I'm reading correctly.

[KainRoK]

^^^Only the first set are coming with maxflo and tank as stated on page one by the guy from DLX

[Dark Zero]

What's with all the hate? Ego's and DM's are practically the same thing year after year and cost 1200-1400~(no tank) respectively yet people don't seem to have much of a problem with that. You'd think they should cost less since its practically the same thing again, with some changes.

Atleast the Luxe seems to be trying to bring some different things to the table. Usually new endeavors aren't the cheapest things to bring to the market. To those who think it should be cheaper, IE: $800~, WHY do you think that?

[♣SHINEONE3♣]

Originally Posted by KainRoK

^^^Only the first set are coming with maxflo and tank as stated on page one by the guy from DLX

He stated that the first 100 or so will come with the tank for $1500.. So I'm assuming the gun will have a price drop after the first 100? at least $2-$300.. ?

[Aznac872]

Originally Posted by Dark Zero

What's with all the hate? Ego's and DM's are practically the same thing year after year and cost 1200-1400~(no tank) respectively yet people don't seem to have much of a problem with that. You'd think they should cost less since its practically the same thing again, with some changes.

Atleast the Luxe seems to be trying to bring some different things to the table. Usually new endeavors aren't the cheapest things to bring to the market. To those who think it should be cheaper, IE: $800~, WHY do you think that?

Exactly, they are targeting people interested in higher end guns and are including things in the package to justify the price tag.

[RavagersTC]

Originally Posted by Dark Zero

What's with all the hate? Ego's and DM's are practically the same thing year after year and cost 1200-1400~(no tank) respectively yet people don't seem to have much of a problem with that. You'd think they should cost less since its practically the same thing again, with some changes.

Atleast the Luxe seems to be trying to bring some different things to the table. Usually new endeavors aren't the cheapest things to bring to the market. To those who think it should be cheaper, IE: $800~, WHY do you think that?

I looped them all together. This years 08 guns are no better than 07's or even 06's for that matter. They all shoot just as accurate (ball on ball cant be made any better, seeing as the second ball hits right where the one before it did) and they'll all shoot the same speed if set for it. The *****ing comes in at weight for all the little pencil armed 12 year olds.


But, here's a little riddle for you. How much do you think the price is expanded over the production costs? A very large amount. Aluminum is not THAT expensive compared to other metals like titanium. It's also soft making it easy to mill. And given the fact these companies make so many of each gun and part, they just write the programs to do it for them and send them all off to anno which is also really cheap in large batches. There's a local anno shop in my area which will do a complete gun for 20 bucks but you have to strip it first, and it looks nice. Sure, no fades or acid washes, but a solid color at any custom shop is 100+. Materials and workmanship does not even add up to 700, so riddle me this..... Where does the other 800 come in? Don't say I don't know what I'm talking about cause I haven't seen statements from the company, cause its just common sense. It really is too. Plastic and metal are very cheap materials to make in large numbers. It comes with the age we're in.


As for it being useless.... It does the same things as any other high end, and they're all extremely over priced anyways. Most real guns don't even cost as much as todays paintball markers, and they involve a lot more metal, engineering, and working parts. These companies make gigantic profits over hype and not much else seeing as the things they "invent" are just reinventions of something else. Any gun I can get that will ramp 15bps for mxl and shoot accurately that I can get for as cheap as possible is enough for me. And believe me, I can find a bunch that work as good as this thing and cost a fraction of what it does.

[jonotwist]

Originally Posted by Exilict

I have no problem dropping $1500 on this gun...
I don't expect to do anything other then what it does for 1500...

-x

can i have some money?

Originally Posted by RavagersTC

Here, how about this, just to toot my own horn....

amen, viva la cocker,

[bigdaddyreg]

Originally Posted by KainRoK

^^^Only the first set are coming with maxflo and tank as stated on page one by the guy from DLX

And didn't he agree that he would need to save to get one hope i am wrong