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Old 03-22-2008, 08:13 AM #1
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evil shocker lpr ??????

hey all

I was looking for upgrades and I came across an evil shocker lpr that goes where the vertical asa is. I am wondering if anyone has ever seen them of if they are worth it or if they even do anything at all.

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any one have any thoughts
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Old 03-22-2008, 08:33 AM #2
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if your going throw your money the street for that part just put it in my paypal account
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Old 03-22-2008, 08:35 AM #3
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there is tons of those out there, meh ! of course it does something, affects efficiency, kick that I know of, but I have no need for that. It might just make your gun slightly heavier =D
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Old 03-22-2008, 10:07 AM #4
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they are that bad eh? I was just wondering man I am not going to go out and get one right now I was just wondering
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:37 AM #5
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not bad,pointless and unnecessary
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:42 AM #6
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New Evil Shocker Low Pressure Regulator

for FST or NXT shocker

theres an FST shocker?
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Old 03-22-2008, 12:30 PM #7
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prbo just a typo lol
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Old 03-22-2008, 04:33 PM #8
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In theory, the use of an LPR would save a little air, allow for less kick, and protect your solenoid from regulator spikes.

In practice, the actual reduction in cycling pressure is minimal, so efficiency isn't really improved and kick remains pretty much the same - although as seekone stated, the increase in weight would help to absorb some kick and the change in balance would help to control muzzle rise!

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its only worth lik 20 bucks or something so if it works great and if not oh well its only 20 bucks
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Old 03-22-2008, 09:59 PM #10
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as I said above, check what its used for, less kick and more efficiency, lal on you, as long as you know how it works
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there is tons of those out there, meh ! of course it does something, affects efficiency, kick that I know of, but I have no need for that. It might just make your gun slightly heavier =D
It doesnt do ****.
Shockers dont need LPR's.

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exactly

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New Evil Shocker Low Pressure Regulator

for FST or NXT shocker

theres an FST shocker?
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In theory, the use of an LPR would save a little air, allow for less quick, and protect your solenoid from regulator spikes.

In practice, the actual reduction in cycling pressure is minimal, so efficiency isn't really improved and kick remains pretty much the same - although as seekone stated, the increase in weight would help to absorb some kick and the change in balance would help to control muzzle rise!
It wouldnt do a thing.
The shocker wasnt designed to use an LPR.

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its only worth lik 20 bucks or something so if it works great and if not oh well its only 20 bucks
If youre going to throw away that 20 bux.
Put it in my Paypal account

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as I said above, check what its used for, less kick and more efficiency, lal on you, as long as you know how it works
It doesnt do ****.
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Old 03-22-2008, 10:06 PM #12
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if you say so master lol

it does make a slight difference though. but again, its just another bulk for lazy people who don't wanna get their tank filled lol
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How does it make a difference?
Trust me it wont do a damn thing.
The Shocker wasnt designed to incorporate an Lpr.
Dont you think SP would have incorporated an LPR on it if the shocker needed it?
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The design of the bolt allows it to freely move forward with an approximate force of 17 pounds. Additionally, the stationary portions of the firing assembly will absorb smaller amounts of force, which in practice serve to decrease the total moving force of the bolt by additional, albeit smaller, amounts. This special function of the Shocker makes it quite impossible for the application of an additional regulator (LPR) to drop the pneumatics pressure any further. This is because, when the pressure actuating the bolt is reduced, the force driving the bolt will see more reduction and prevent the marker from fully-cycling. It is for this reason that the Shocker doesn't readily accept an LPR. It is true that some developers have released their own LPR kits, however as said, the practical benefit of these is low.

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Yeah, it will hardly do a thing if not anything.
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The design of the bolt allows it to freely move forward with an approximate force of 17 pounds. Additionally, the stationary portions of the firing assembly will absorb smaller amounts of force, which in practice serve to decrease the total moving force of the bolt by additional, albeit smaller, amounts. This special function of the Shocker makes it quite impossible for the application of an additional regulator (LPR) to drop the pneumatics pressure any further. This is because, when the pressure actuating the bolt is reduced, the force driving the bolt will see more reduction and prevent the marker from fully-cycling. It is for this reason that the Shocker doesn't readily accept an LPR. It is true that some developers have released their own LPR kits, however as said, the practical benefit of these is low.

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In other words, It doesn't do **** hahaha
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In other words, It doesn't do **** hahaha
pretty much, just slightly but it is nothing amazing or noticeable, so I would say it is a waste of $$ my point being, it does ! haha but not worth it
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pretty much, just slightly but it is nothing amazing or noticeable, so I would say it is a waste of $$ my point being, it does ! haha but not worth it
MY point being, send me the money!
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Old 03-22-2008, 10:52 PM #19
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It is true, as you say, that the Shocker is designed not to need an LPR, but that doesn't mean that the LPR doesn't make any difference, it just means that it's a pointless addition. It can make a difference in cycling pressure..... but only about 20psi of difference (as per Ydna).....

So will it do something? Literally speaking, yes. Will it do enough to make it a worthwhile addition? no.

So like I said in my post, the difference is minimal, but there is a difference. Just because I said there was a difference, doesn't make it worthwhile, nor do I recommend it. However, if we are going to provide information, we may as well provide all the information.
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it is what I have been trying to get... split the $$$?
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Both you guys are right. There's a theoretical difference, but not a practical one. If you happen have a Shocker that just happens to accept lower pressures for the bolt then you'd see a tad more benefit but that's kindof a crapshoot.

LPRs actually help a little more with Evolve v1 and v2 bolts (no ULP) since they use more bolt force. Evolve made LPR adapters back in the day just for that purpose, but even when used with the Evolve kits they would still not help by an amount to make people turn heads.

If you're an upgrade freak and want to drop the cash on it, then by all means go nuts! Just don't expect any miracles. Hell these LPRs cost $100 back when they were first released....
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