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Old 03-25-2008, 10:13 AM #43
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Has anyone read "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton? If you haven't, it is a great read. When the enviromentalists went to him, they asked him to write a book about how Global Warming is evil, yadda yadda. He looked into it, looked at all the research, the 'facts', and basically turned it back around on them. He went through articles from NASA, top-tier scientists and general facts about Global Warming and when the book came out, it was a little surprising to the enviromentalists. No, Crichton is not a scientist or claim to know everything about Global Warming, but it brings some great things to light and just makes you really wonder.
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Old 03-25-2008, 10:18 AM #44
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Has anyone read "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton? If you haven't, it is a great read. When the enviromentalists went to him, they asked him to write a book about how Global Warming is evil, yadda yadda. He looked into it, looked at all the research, the 'facts', and basically turned it back around on them. He went through articles from NASA, top-tier scientists and general facts about Global Warming and when the book came out, it was a little surprising to the enviromentalists. No, Crichton is not a scientist or claim to know everything about Global Warming, but it brings some great things to light and just makes you really wonder.
He wrote this great book about Dinosaurs being cloned with DNA from mosquito's trapped in fossilized tree sap too. He actually put a lot of research into it and it really makes you wonder sometimes...

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Old 03-25-2008, 10:59 AM #45
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He wrote this great book about Dinosaurs being cloned with DNA from mosquito's trapped in fossilized tree sap too. He actually put a lot of research into it and it really makes you wonder sometimes...

Cute. Sorry for suggesting something that actually has some base to it and takes a look at the whole idea of Global Warming and makes it look ridiculous.

I appreciate the sarcasm though. Kind of like the same sarcasm I would use when saying this country is ready for a man who believes that Joseph Smith read tablets out of a hat and claims Jesus lived in the Mid-West
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Old 03-25-2008, 11:11 AM #46
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I appreciate the sarcasm though. Kind of like the same sarcasm I would use when saying this country is ready for a man who believes that Joseph Smith read tablets out of a hat and claims Jesus lived in the Mid-West
Way to take some fun sarcasm the wrong way and show some good old fashioned religious bigotry
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Old 03-25-2008, 11:30 AM #47
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Way to take some fun sarcasm the wrong way and show some good old fashioned religious bigotry
Fair enough. I actually take it back and apologize. I didn't realize you were actually using fun sarcasm and I hit back with a low blow that was not necessary.
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Old 03-25-2008, 11:59 AM #48
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Old 03-25-2008, 01:17 PM #49
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My step-dad gave me that book recently. I think i'm going to read it.
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Old 03-25-2008, 03:29 PM #50
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Old 03-26-2008, 11:32 PM #51
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:05 AM #52
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Its because we are releasing so much green house gases its leaking to other planets. Gosh! Global warming is worse than I thought!
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Old 03-29-2008, 02:07 AM #53
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our planet is going to freeze up, no joke
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:05 PM #54
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Old 03-31-2008, 10:49 AM #55
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*psst* global warming is a hoax
Al Gore is gonna put a hit out on you . . .
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Old 03-31-2008, 12:40 PM #56
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LOL, the liberal media is always trying to bring down the jesus freaks right?

Not saying that global warming is anywhere near conclusive, but one of the MAJOR tenants of global warming is more extreme inclement weather....such as colder winters and more extreme weather systems.

"more extreme weather"... gotcha... so the Global Warming proponents can now point to ANY weather event, and say "oh yes, global warming definately predicts this sort of thing... "

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Old 03-31-2008, 01:42 PM #57
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Trying to move towards renewable, clean energy is good. Nobody likes smog, OPEC, or acid rain. If there is a way to run the economy without producing these things (or anything worse, like landfills filled with dangerous chemicals from those so called "green" hybrids ), I'm all for it.

Attacking anyone who attempts to put forth evidence against a theory that you admit to not fully understanding is unscientific and stupid.
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Old 03-31-2008, 01:45 PM #58
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"more extreme weather"... gotcha... so the Global Warming proponents can now point to ANY weather event, and say "oh yes, global warming definately predicts this sort of thing... "

Excellent.
That's basically it. The proponents of GW have been reduced to saying that when the weather changes, it's caused by mankind. I guess before we started driving SUVs, the weather hardly changed at all.
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Old 03-31-2008, 01:59 PM #59
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I will say this, and only this.

"Global Warming" doesn't exist. Its nothing but a huge political statement.
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you guys are right. Global warming is Al Gores evil plot to improve the environment and create a cleaner, more renewable source of energy. Damn him.

Seriously though, I don't know if Global warming is real or not but if global warming turns out to be a bunch a bull hockey aren't the benefits of the changes being made good anyway?
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Old 03-31-2008, 02:43 PM #61
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you guys are right. Global warming is Al Gores evil plot to improve the environment and create a cleaner, more renewable source of energy. Damn him.

Seriously though, I don't know if Global warming is real or not but if global warming turns out to be a bunch a bull hockey aren't the benefits of the changes being made good anyway?

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Old 03-31-2008, 03:16 PM #62
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For one, I'll be dead before any of this sets in.

Two, this will be many many years away from now.

Three, What happens when the oil supply runs out, we stop emitting carbon, and there is no more global warming? What's coming first? That's my theory.


This is why I support researching better energy sources. I'm more for the less smog, acid rain, nasty-other-stuff. No one wants that.
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Old 03-31-2008, 03:38 PM #63
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While I'm not sure about global warming because I havent researched it at all really for myself my college oceanogrophy teacher is teaching us its real at the moment so I don't know maybe they just teach it as part of the course but so far it makes sense from what he's been saying. Either way its not a big deal, but I do find it interesting that everyone no longer believes in global warming and questioned it ever since it came out compared to prodominatly everyones belief in evolution.

Decreasing pollution and finding new energy resources will never be a bad thing at the same time even if global warming was a total fake. New methods of creating energy will always be welcomed and can still turn profits for big company's if they decide to back whatever the newest inventions are.

This is just a quick question as well I forget which company it was but they were talking about how their cars can get whatever mpg, then after that another radio comercial was talking about how their trains can get 400 mpg on 1 gallon of gas. Anyone know what else these trains are using? Obviously its different in that its not stop and go constantly but still that gas millage should be attainable if someone would not let car and gas companys by the patents and kill the projects.

Opinions and ideas would be great.
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