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Old 06-18-2008, 06:50 AM #211
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get a 90* frame if you can. They are so comfortable and many of them are long, so you can fit more stuff like boards and solenoids in them.
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:46 AM #212
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Will a Vertical frame fit the noid? I know those things tend to have a smaller top than 45s which would make it harder to fit a noid there.
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:54 PM #213
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Space shouldn't be an issue. I think I've mentioned my solenoid is only about 1.5" by 5/8" by 5/16". It's tiny.

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Old 06-18-2008, 08:07 PM #214
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Wow, those Mac noids would fit inside an SR frame even..........which just happens to be the best frame on the planet w/ the best closed-bolt board from what I've been told (including those that have used old angel vertical frames). Too bad I don't think WGP would sell one of those, plus it would be rather expensive.

BTW, which wattage of noid are you using and what boards do you think would run it?
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Old 06-18-2008, 11:47 PM #215
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I'm running the 4W noid.

I've been told that the WAS board would run it, and I can only hope the UTB will as well. The only downside with that 4W noid and an MQ2 will be battery drain.

I've also got confirmation that the machined parts shipped yesterday and will arrive to me on Tuesday, and the MQ2 shipped yesterday, as well. I'm just waiting on a response from Damon on the UTB.

Unfortunately, next week will be VERY busy for me at work. I've got over $2 million in shipments to move out next week (which I'm responsible for coordinating, preparing docs for, and making sure the exports go properly), and my boss is out of town, so I'm in charge. It looks like I won't have it tested until the VERY end of the month or beginning of July.

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Old 06-18-2008, 11:50 PM #216
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I can imagine.............just duct tape batteries all over the gun. Better yet, have a car battery in a backpack wired to it.
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Old 06-18-2008, 11:53 PM #217
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Well, right now the gun's battery is in the loader shell, so switching it out between games would be pretty easy.
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:03 AM #218
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Ahhhh, shucks. I was about to suggest soldering a bunch of D-cells together like they use on Electric Drag Racers and Robot war stuff. Too bad lol
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Old 06-19-2008, 10:23 PM #219
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Well, my UTB will ship tomorrow, and I'm installing the MQ2 right now. Yes!!
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Old 06-20-2008, 02:27 AM #220
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Aside from the custom machined parts, the mQ2 is probably the hardest part to get you hands on so I would say you are getting pretty close.
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Old 06-20-2008, 03:00 AM #221
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Yeah, I'm still wondering what's keeping Kerry and Mike so busy these days. I thought that Kerry finished up his Thesis and would have some more time now. Oh well, so long as this thing gets an mQ2 so it can be tested, I'm happy.
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Old 06-21-2008, 05:33 PM #222
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First round of preliminary testing completed.

I did a leak test today. It airs up, doesn't leak, the noid cycles. Yes! I was expecting a leak somewhere I forgot to put loctite on a hose barb, etc.

The ram doesn't move, however, but the solenoid is cycling. I believe that the WAS board has the dwell set so damn low it won't move the ram. I've tried 2 different rams, and cycling it without the hose for the return stroke attached to a ram. Air is definitely switching, but the ram isn't moving. It's weird. I've even switched out batteries. Oh well, I'll just wait for the UTB to come in. I also haven't wired the MQ2 to the board because I'd have to solder on a different molex connector to the pilot, which I don't feel like doing when I have a new board coming in.

This next week or 2 should be full of updates. My UTB shipped yesterday so I should have it around the middle of the week. Until then, though, no more tests I can run.

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Old 06-21-2008, 06:24 PM #223
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sweet. I was expecting leaks too.
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Old 06-21-2008, 06:29 PM #224
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LOL. I always expect something to go wrong. It has first time I've aired up any marker I've ever had. This is the first time, however, I couldn't get a board to go allow me to change the settings.
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:59 AM #225
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Weird, my WAS board was very user friendly when I had it. Anyway, Glad there were no leaks. When I made my first spudgun I wasn't able to fix all the leaks until about the 10th try (I made my own valve similar to an mQ, but manually operated and single shot).
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:27 AM #226
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LOL. I always expect something to go wrong. It has first time I've aired up any marker I've ever had. This is the first time, however, I couldn't get a board to go allow me to change the settings.
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Old 06-22-2008, 03:42 AM #227
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I'm VERY worried about your electrical power consumption limiting top speed. Make sure to wire in at least a 3300uF capacitor. I'd probably go custom battery, to be honest. My WAS noid is 4.5W and requires around 14ms dwell in my timmy to be reliable. Check friction and ram/manual override (do MACs even HAVE THAT) to make sure pneumatics are good.

Does that WAS board support equalink settings changes? I think it might be possible to lock them from there in software, hopefully that is not your problem.

Home stretch man, looking forward!

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Old 06-22-2008, 09:15 AM #228
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Old 06-22-2008, 11:52 AM #229
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What's up Lurker? Haven't heard from you since before I went semi-public with my project. I've definitely got some ideas up my sleeves as far as batteries go, and the WAS board will only be in there for a few more days until my UTB comes in. I hadn't thought about the possibility of power consumption limiting speed. That's interesting. I'm sure I can find a way around it. I do plan on adding in a capacitor.

I do suspect that the WAS board is my problem, and I've thought about shorting it out of the tourney lock. It's interesting... if I hook up each output to a different ram, they both cycle, and vent, but the output that is normally on doesn't depressurize for long enough to move the ram very much. It may be the solenoid, but I won't know until I'm using a different board or until I decide to remove the WAS board so I can short it.

At this point, I've got about 4 hurdles in front of me...
1: Get the UTB wired and working
2: Make sure the MQ2 shoots properly
3: Battery/Batteries - fortunately, I can put the battery in the loader shell, and some in the grip frame if I needed 3 9v's would def. be possible, but probably too much.
4: Here's the biggest one... getting the ram to activate the bolt system. I know how to do it, but I need to make sure that it consistantly lines up properly.
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:59 PM #230
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idk if it has been asked or mentioned... but is this gonna be open or closed bolt?
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Old 06-22-2008, 02:27 PM #231
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That's a difficult question, actually.

The bolt system will cycle after the shot is fired.
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