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Old 03-10-2008, 02:54 PM #43
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Well if you could round up some intelligence and articulate your thoughts into text, go ahead and try to explain why you think liberals suck.
I agree my choice of wording was not very politically correct, however when you live in a very democratic and liberal state with some of the highest taxes in the nation (#2 last I knew), bottom of the barrel economy, and lawmakers who insist on making laws that are pro enviroment and kill the economy (recently passed a law requiring that lobsterman and fisherman use specific types of line (some floating some non) in order to save a specific species of whale, I believe it was, thus costing them tens of thousands of dollars, in a industry that is already leaving some of the hardest working people I have ever known with little to no retirement savings, if they are making their monthly financial commitments as it is) it leaves a real sour taste in your mouth.
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:54 PM #44
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kjjm4- I think you should probably get a one way ticket to Canada then because a third party will never win
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Old 03-10-2008, 03:01 PM #45
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I'm not leaving my country just because somebody gets elected that I don't like. That's totally the wrong attitude to take.
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:13 PM #46
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Worst case scenario: John McCain becomes president, war breaks out between US and Iran, a draft is ordered and my 2.5 years college education goes down the drain to get my leg blown off in some foreign country.
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:42 PM #47
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Worst case scenario: pinko like Hillary or Obama wins the election, and all my hard work in Iraq goes down the drain.
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Old 03-10-2008, 06:04 PM #48
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Worst case scenario: John McCain becomes president, war breaks out between US and Iran, a draft is ordered and my 2.5 years college education goes down the drain to get my leg blown off in some foreign country.
are you nuts we have this thing called a air force! Its called ordering a air Strike! McCain knows whats up

worst case is that Clinton OR Obama get in to office and were fubared
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Old 03-10-2008, 06:35 PM #49
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are you nuts we have this thing called a air force! Its called ordering a air Strike! McCain knows whats up

worst case is that Clinton OR Obama get in to office and were fubared
It is impossible to bomb a country into submission. Ground forces are needed, that is why our country established The Army, the Marines, along with many different branches of the Air Force and Navy that all include ground soldiers.

Simply bombing a country would not work. If you do not believe me, go pick up a history book at look up Operation Rolling Thunder or The German bombardment of Great Britain in WWII.

War against Iran would most likley equate to a draft. Our military is stretched too thin as it is.
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Old 03-10-2008, 07:06 PM #50
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Would people just shut the hell up with these pathetic attacks against "liberals"?!

It's as if you prefer to have some militaristic ******* running this **** heap and making more and more countries want to commit acts of terrorism against us. As opposed to those "evil liberals" who want the world to think of us as a more humble nation instead of the brute it is now. Heaven forbid those "liberals" also start focusing on the citizens of this country!

I seriously want to slap the next person who stereotypes someone as a "liberal" with negative implications.

Want a worst case scenario?

How about McCain gets presidency. He'll exacerbate the U.S. occupation of the Middle East and likely prod other countries with America's "big stick". All while letting the economy fall deeper into the hole and caring more about military rule in war torn foreign nations than the citizens of the U.S.
****ing pwnd!
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Old 03-10-2008, 07:45 PM #51
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the Republicans decide that McCain isn't "republican" enough and instead nominate Dick Cheney. The Florida vote get screwed up again, and he wins somehow.

or- McCain wins and they start teaching creationism in public schools.
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Old 03-10-2008, 08:20 PM #53
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1.Worst case scenario obama or hillary get in to office, they pull out of iraq, new york and L.A. get hit with a nuclear or biological weapon we go back into the middle east.

2.Worst case scenario McCain gets in we continue to fight in the middle east, the government foils the terrorist plan but doesn't release info about it. The country falls into a depression, and the country go into civil war.
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Old 03-10-2008, 08:24 PM #54
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McCain then Hillary, then Obama.
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Old 03-10-2008, 09:50 PM #55
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Worst Case for 08?

Fox News and CNN stop 24/7 coverage of the election and I am left horribly uninformed. The horror.

That or G-Dub somehow, by some odd, mystical, cosmic chance, gets a 3rd term.
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:58 PM #56
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Fox News and CNN stop 24/7 coverage of the election and I am left horribly uninformed. The horror.
I think this may just possibly be the best case scenario. That is all the Fox hating I'm going to do today, I SWEAR.
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:13 PM #57
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The point is the rich get richer while the middle and lower classes get no better, but I think you understood that just chose to ignore it.
So in your opinion there should be no classes right? Oh wait, isn't that called Communism? I think it was tried once or twice and has totally ruined countries. If you want equality, move to Cuba....everyone is equally poor.

The reason the rich keep getting richer is because they don't do things to make them poor. The poor choose to do things to keep them poor and the middle class choose to keep them in the middle class. Its all about individuals. There are construction workers who work hard and eventually own their own businesses and are very successful. There are some businessmen who squander their money, go bankrupt and become poor.

Guess what, my wife and I make a combined $80,000 a year....at this point I'm considered lower upper class. Am I rich? Not even close. Do I work hard for my money? You're damn right I do.
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:18 PM #58
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No I think the rich shouldnt be given tax breaks they dont need, they would be much more beneficial and ethical being given to the lower and middle classes. Where did you get communism from my statement? Watching to much Bill O?
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:26 PM #59
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You want everyone to be equal right? That's Communism....everyone is equally poor.

The top 1% of income earners (which starts at a 4 person family making a combined $250,000 a year just to let you know) pay 37% of the taxes. The top 50% of income earners (which starts at a 4 person family making $50,000 a year) pay over 90% of the taxes in this country. I think the "evil rich" pay more than "their fair share" of the taxes in this country....that's why they need tax breaks. Plus the "evil rich" are the ones who have disposable income to sink back into the economy to help it grow.
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I never said they need to be equal, again you lack basic comprehension skills. Upper class not needing tax breaks that would help the lower and middle class=/= communism. The only way it would be communism would be if you took most of the money from the rich, spread it throughout the lower and middle classes until all classes now have an equal income. Read.

I never said anything about "evil rich" either. Again, read.
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:45 PM #61
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Would people just shut the hell up with these pathetic attacks against "liberals"?!
Does anyone else see the irony in this statement?

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The point is the rich get richer while the middle and lower classes get no better, but I think you understood that just chose to ignore it.
Wait... so because I work hard for my money, you think you have the right to give my money to people that don't?
That, my kind sir, is communism. I'm sorry, but I work to support myself as well as my family, and if I get rich off this diligent work, why is that a crime?

Just because the lower class can't sustain a decent paying job doesn't mean I have to put forth my money, through taxes, to offset that. If I want to help them through charity, that's fine; but I shouldn't be forced to do this through taxation. You can't tell me that this is not trying to establish economic equality.

Concentrate on being fair, not on being equal.

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I never said they need to be equal, again you lack basic comprehension skills. Upper class not needing tax breaks that would help the lower and middle class=/= communism. The only way it would be communism would be if you took most of the money from the rich, spread it throughout the lower and middle classes until all classes now have an equal income. Read.

I never said anything about "evil rich" either. Again, read.
Quit trying to discredit his intelligence by avoiding your implications. Tax breaks are not acquired by the "evil government" handing them out like flyers to the "evil rich." They're acquired by intelligent citizens using financing to their advantage... because quite frankly, the income tax isn't too kind against the "evil rich" to begin with.

Oh, and he was being satirical when he said "evil rich;" it wasn't a legitimate quote. If you want to try to accuse him of misquoting you, then go right ahead, but remember rhetoric is a literary device, and he never quoted YOU specifically.
Sorry, I had to add that, I had a feeling you were going to attack him with technicalities because you obviously don't like people having opinions that differ from yours.
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this thread is Worst Case Scenario....

and i think it would be the worst case scenario...


not being able to take another persons opinion ftl... says the moron who makes fun of the moron for obama/muslim conspiracies.


and...what if?
Alright since this is the worst case scenario, it is okay then to make some ridiculous scenario up? In that case, I think the worst case scenario is if the Reptilians really are in fact real and reveal themselves through their organic portals.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:23 AM #63
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I never said they need to be equal, again you lack basic comprehension skills. Upper class not needing tax breaks that would help the lower and middle class=/= communism. The only way it would be communism would be if you took most of the money from the rich, spread it throughout the lower and middle classes until all classes now have an equal income. Read.

I never said anything about "evil rich" either. Again, read.
To be fair, expendible income being expended is kinda the cornerstone of any economy.
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