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Old 03-03-2008, 12:37 AM #43
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What was the year the gov forced the American people to turn over their gold, cause I fogot!
Actually the era of gold was pretty short. The question was solved in the closing years of the 19th century. The gold standard was abandoned during the depression under the assumption that it would help (it didn't).
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:39 AM #44
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Actually the era of gold was pretty short. The question was solved in the closing years of the 19th century. The gold standard was abandoned during the depression under the assumption that it would help (it didn't).
Yeah, but what year was it. I really just want to re-know the year!

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Old 03-03-2008, 12:41 AM #45
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Yeah, but what year was it. I really just want to re-know the year!

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I dunno. I have a tab open to google and I'll be honest, I don't care enough to look it up. I'm actually taking college history II, and if I'm not mistaken my next class will cover this particular incident. Why learn now when I can learn it later in an official capacity?
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:15 AM #46
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For the first time ever I'm gonna quote a video game to make a point:

"A man creates, a parasite asks: "where is my share"."

MY money is MY money. The poor did NOT earn my money. I'm all for charity if you choose to do it, but keep your hands off of MY wallet. If you feel guilty about the poor dump your own money into their coffers, leave me out of it.
Do you seriously think it's possible to solve this problem without raising taxes? You can try to cut spending but you'll reach a point where more cuts will never pass. Be realistic, you need to raise taxes and cut spending to fix the problem or else the entire country is screwed.

And by the way the Laffer curve doesn't hold up for the most part, we have no way of knowing where we are on the curve, and according to most economists cutting taxes does not raise more revenue than lost in tax money. Take it as it is, expansionary fiscal policy that is meant to stimulate the economy.
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:18 AM #47
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Americans are already hurting at the wallet. Consumer confidence is at an all time low, and you want to raise taxes?

Consumer confidence has nothing to do with taxes, it is not directly related to tax rates. There have been periods like in Johnson's Great Society Era where taxes were high and consumer confidence was high. American's have to live with what they've created, a fiscal nightmare.
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:35 AM #48
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Yeah, but what year was it. I really just want to re-know the year!

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1932. During Roosevelt's first hundred days. I don't understand why it's a big deal. It was a good idea at the time, and in all honesty, every standard a country can adopt, whether it be gold, silver, ivory, or paper will degenerate the same way ours is. The only difference is the rate at which it happens. And that's an arguable point.
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:59 AM #49
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what about the baby boom ending soon the number of citizens recieving medicare and social security is going to decrease eventually

and fort knox is empty there i said it
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:04 AM #50
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To end medicare benifits and other entitlement programs is political suicide. We just need to find and elect someone who will do that without coming off as crazy and wantingt to take on the government by themselves. Fix one thing, then move on to the next.
No one is really speaking about completely ending these programs. However all of them need to be cut in some way or another. The social security age minumum needs to be raised to 75, and many of the subsidized healthcare programs need to have significant cuts.

What pisses me off more than anything is that while our country is going down a path of fiscal disaster the most popular candidate only wishes to increase spending. I consider Obama to be a great leader, but he holds on to policies that will bankrupt America.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:38 AM #51
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The absolute first step is stop promising more entitlements like the Democrats are doing. The problem will never be stopped if we keep on doing so.
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The Democrats will never, ever stop promising more entitlements. Thats how they buy votes. Poor people traditionally vote Democrat. Poor people want entitlements. Most politicians don't really care all that much about running the country efficiently and effectively. They care about staying in office.
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:09 AM #53
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:11 AM #54
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The Democrats will never, ever stop promising more entitlements. Thats how they buy votes. Poor people traditionally vote Democrat. Poor people want entitlements. Most politicians don't really care all that much about running the country efficiently and effectively. They care about staying in office.
And Republicans buy votes with the promise of lowering taxes.Most politicians don't really care all that much about running the country efficiently and effectively. They care about staying in office.
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:19 AM #55
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Oh please stop with this crap. The problem is fiscal policy and politicians, not monetary policy.
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Oh please stop with this crap. The problem is fiscal policy and politicians, not monetary policy.
Those are both tied in together!
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And Republicans buy votes with the promise of lowering taxes.Most politicians don't really care all that much about running the country efficiently and effectively. They care about staying in office.

I find it humorous that most people automatically assume that I'm a Republican when I criticize the Democrats and quickly jump in with a criticism of Republicans. Republicans are probably worse than Democrats, at least lately, because they've been spending more money on worthless programs and lowering taxes.

I'd rather have low taxes , limited government, and almost no social programs.
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:35 AM #58
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I find it humorous that most people automatically assume that I'm a Republican when I criticize the Democrats and quickly jump in with a criticism of Republicans. Republicans are probably worse than Democrats, at least lately, because they've been spending more money on worthless programs and lowering taxes.

I'd rather have low taxes , limited government, and almost no social programs.
I didn't assume a thing, I just always point out how things swing both ways, I did this in regards to George Bush in the Cuba thread.
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don't worry boys and girls, national healthcare aka socialized medicine will fix all the monetary problems that SS and Medicare are currently encountering
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And Republicans buy votes with the promise of lowering taxes.Most politicians don't really care all that much about running the country efficiently and effectively. They care about staying in office.
Hmm, so the promise of more of my money in MY pocket or the promise of more of my money in someone else's pocket? I'll vote republican any day!

But in reality, the democrats have become socialists, and the republicans are well on their way to becoming the new liberals. True constitutional conservatism is lost.
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But in reality, the democrats have become socialists, and the republicans are well on their way to becoming the new liberals. True constitutional conservatism is lost.
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Hmm, so the promise of more of my money in MY pocket or the promise of more of my money in someone else's pocket? I'll vote republican any day!
Lowering taxes while continuing spending is asking for disaster.
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Lowering taxes while continuing spending is asking for disaster.
I never said it wasn't. Both political parties will destroy us. I guess I feel like there is still a chance for the republican party to go back to being constitutional conservatives, none of this new age neo crap. Not in this election, but maybe in 2012. I know that is not possible for democrats.

Edit: sorry, I used the wrong smiley after the vote republican anyday comment. I was only half serious.
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