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03-02-2008, 02:11 PM
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bucking fitch
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New Jersey
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so generally a lower PSi means higher dwell? can you have them both low and turn the back cap out? i have a tru flo delrin bolt V2 and the stock spring. i'm trying to get it to be the most gentle on paint. what kind of setting would u say is good?
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03-02-2008, 08:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxOC
ah. i thought you had an aftermarket. 7 was fine then lol. but 4 is better
i lost my lurker somewhere in my room. its nearly empty too. ppl with shockers at the field keep using it.
you know every shocker taht has used it has had a 45-60 fps gain?
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Nice guide, Max. Good principles employed. I will second the backpressure being VERY important...that is central to the concept of my poppet.
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03-02-2008, 09:27 PM
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how do I 555 deal?
Join Date: May 2007
Location: tucson, hot as hell, AZ
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yay, praise from lurker, now my life is complete
im runnnin outta lurker though. it sucks. i got like a quarter tub left lol. id guess i got another 2 months.
by the way, you really should go around in the shocker forum a lil more. EVERY shocker that ive let lube using lurker has had a 45-65 fps gain from various lubes. 33, 55, mookies, other stuff too. although they keep using too much and gettin some fsdo. *******es lol.
ive never actually taken time to do a full out tune lol. i need to just play with my gun some. learn a lil more how the dwell and backcap effect things. i need a good kit first though. my paint is way small due to desert. and im using a 91 barrel lol.
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03-06-2008, 11:38 PM
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How much better on air is it when set to the top specs?

Last edited by vaa : 03-09-2009 at 09:06 PM.
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03-06-2008, 11:40 PM
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how do I 555 deal?
Join Date: May 2007
Location: tucson, hot as hell, AZ
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with v2 and kit, a case a 68 45. stock, maybe 1700
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03-06-2008, 11:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxOC
with v2 and kit, a case a 68 45. stock, maybe 1700
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how about top spec vs bottom spec.
using V2 bolt and yellow spring?
Thanks for the fast reply.

Last edited by vaa : 03-09-2009 at 09:06 PM.
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03-06-2008, 11:43 PM
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how do I 555 deal?
Join Date: May 2007
Location: tucson, hot as hell, AZ
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no idea. nobody uses the yellow spring. its useless.
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03-07-2008, 12:50 PM
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Hippy
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it does give you faster cycle speeds
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03-07-2008, 02:36 PM
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how do I 555 deal?
Join Date: May 2007
Location: tucson, hot as hell, AZ
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so? you shouldnt be going past 15 anyway. its worth it to use the blue. and if somebodies using yellow or red, i cant help them in any way shape or form.
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03-07-2008, 02:39 PM
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DJ GRAMPS
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Monroe NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxOC
so? you shouldnt be going past 15 anyway. its worth it to use the blue. and if somebodies using yellow or red, i cant help them in any way shape or form.
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Or if their using the Tadao board 
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03-07-2008, 02:58 PM
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Teh Cazca
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Phoenix
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i don't know of any tourneys that allow anything above 15bps so the blue spring is the best. also if you NEED to shoot above 15bps your most likely compensating for a lack of skill unless ur in the back yard trying to get the most bps award (not trying to be mean or anything)
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03-07-2008, 03:06 PM
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USN
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Florida
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Awesome post man, thanks for the guide. I will tune mine this weekend when I get air. 
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03-07-2008, 03:48 PM
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how do I 555 deal?
Join Date: May 2007
Location: tucson, hot as hell, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tnttactical
Or if their using the Tadao board 
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lol. sorry man. i cant help you due to teh different dwell.
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Originally Posted by Cazort
i don't know of any tourneys that allow anything above 15bps so the blue spring is the best. also if you NEED to shoot above 15bps your most likely compensating for a lack of skill unless ur in the back yard trying to get the most bps award (not trying to be mean or anything)
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i sometimes hit 16 17 semi(ive got it tuned so it bounces like a pros ego) and i have no problem chopping up at taht rate. i think its the lurker. in fact thats when it chops the least paint lol.(we has **** paint.)
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03-07-2008, 06:32 PM
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Teh Cazca
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Phoenix
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxOC
i sometimes hit 16 17 semi(ive got it tuned so it bounces like a pros ego) and i have no problem chopping up at taht rate. i think its the lurker. in fact thats when it chops the least paint lol.(we has **** paint.)
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not sure i understood all of that. your guns capped at 15 but you have it to where it bounces to 16, or 17 like a Pro's ego?
so you chop with the blue spring and v2 bolt at 16-17 bps?
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03-07-2008, 06:39 PM
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how do I 555 deal?
Join Date: May 2007
Location: tucson, hot as hell, AZ
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not capped semi. there is no such thing as capped semi.
no, i dont chop at high rof.
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03-07-2008, 06:59 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Camp pendleton
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my friend is having problems with his mini and block back (has ndz bolt and spring blue)
dwell -5
psi around -110
back cap - 3 turns out
any help would be appreciated since hes half retarded and I'm trying to help him on ventrilo
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03-07-2008, 07:01 PM
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rip dan donlon
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: philly
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pntbljnky446
my friend is having problems with his mini and block back (has ndz bolt and spring blue)
dwell -5
psi around -110
back cap - 3 turns out
any help would be appreciated since hes half retarded and I'm trying to help him on ventrilo
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You mean blow back?
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03-07-2008, 07:02 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Camp pendleton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KMAYER1221
You mean blow back?
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yea blow back lol
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03-07-2008, 07:03 PM
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how do I 555 deal?
Join Date: May 2007
Location: tucson, hot as hell, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pntbljnky446
my friend is having problems with his mini and block back (has ndz bolt and spring blue)
dwell -5
psi around -110
back cap - 3 turns out
any help would be appreciated since hes half retarded and I'm trying to help him on ventrilo
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set his psi to 130, dwell to 15 blinks(2.5 ms) and backcap till you hit 300 fps.
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03-07-2008, 07:08 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Camp pendleton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxOC
set his psi to 130, dwell to 15 blinks(2.5 ms) and backcap till you hit 300 fps.
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he doesnt have a chrono, so he wouldnt know if it was 300. But ill tell him to set those settings now.
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03-07-2008, 07:10 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: x956x Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxOC
set his psi to 130, dwell to 15 blinks(2.5 ms) and backcap till you hit 300 fps.
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Isn't 15 blinks 3.75 ms on the stock board?
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