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Old 06-24-2016, 04:16 AM #1
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Project LOG. VSAMG2.0 and How to

This project start like most Spyder projects, you dig through your box, then proceed to browse ebay for the next 6 months and spend way more than I'm going to show right now. As some might now I like modding spyders, been a while since i've actually done anything. Sometime this year I got the bug and bought an AMG to start with and decided i'm going use a balance valve setup.

Basically What were doing is taking a VS2 or VS3 and putting as many parts in an AMG I've seen 1 other setup like this and I've used in an aggressor way back now.

Step 1: strip it down to the body and using a punch drive the star side out. You don't need it

Step 2: This is a good time to do any milling, I gave it to a friend and had him run it just a little further than the pin actually goes in the center channel. You could also use a rear or side cocking bolt.

Step 3: There are 3 things show in this photo; the assemblies take up the same space, The retaining screw, and as use a red striker o-ring you guys think that black oring had anything to do with the "broken" VS2 i'm using?

Step 4: Install the balance valve. Use the set screw and not the brass one. Then make sure to drop the star in for good measure. (Not actually needed)
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Old 06-24-2016, 04:16 AM #2
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Now lets talk springs
The short ones go in a front block, pretty much the most common e-frame spyder
The long ones go in a full body spyder, Most any thing with a hose coming out of the valve chamger
Then there is the AMG, attached to the plug is the heavy straight spring.

Step 5: Since the short black one is from the VS2, were going to try a long black one and hope it holds. since nobody made light springs for the AMG


Step 6: Pick a bolt; I'm going to use the VS2 but I got a couple bolts options if i want later. Ideally, I'd have that 3 o-ring Alamo city bolt, but I can't find any body that even has one anymore.

You can see the venturi face of the ANS rear cocking, the unknown rear delrin is a bit thicker wall, I think its for a electra with the little cocking pin. The VS looks like it have better flow, curved inlet, thinner walls=more volume, rear oring will seal to help keep air directed forward.

Step 7: Put the bolt/striker/spring and plug it up.
I'm going to use the rear plug, I think its cleaner. You need a longer screw through the grip frame to hold it in place. Kinda goes with the quick pull bolt, I could drill a hole in the amg plug to hold now i suppose.


Last bit about spring: If you don't know, VS2 uses a short medium spring that you can't buy in a kit So if you wanted to save $10 you could try getting the gun running and buy a kit later. I've got 3 kits in this picture, Its not a big deal to trim them as they seem to all be different sizes anyway. Bottom left is the VS2 spring size in comparison.

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Old 06-24-2016, 04:46 AM #3
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Step 8: REGULATOR! For now I give up on getting or having made the vertical ASA adapter for the AMG. I've got like 4 regulators that I bought mostly to if the parts could work, nice right. My millennium has a sidewider because of that. What has happened is I think i'm going to use the VS2 regulator combo on/off ASA.

What nice about the AMG is the inline holes since every other classic spyder is offset I'm think i'm going to get a different rail adapter but the CP one I have will do for now.

The other thing is like all fitting s on spyders are metric, i dont' know where I had an extra straight fitting from but I needed to put one on the AMG grip.


Step 9: Assemble The rest of the gun.


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Old 06-24-2016, 05:00 AM #4
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I guess its time to revel the first fitting of the VSAMG2.0


I have more parts that I haven't show yet, I'd like to dial the tuning in first.

Where were at on the build.
AMG-$40
VS2-$60
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subscribed! and that's a nice build and walk through. I may have to build one myself. The VS2 was always my favorite Spyder to date. Shot so smooth for a blowback. It kept up with intimidators and other high ends no problem. Just a little more kick and a louder bang is all.
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