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Old 02-07-2008, 06:01 PM #1
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EGO help and FAQ thread

EDIT:This thread is old and only pertains to the 05-08 egos not including the SL8r. I revived it because I found it from googling the issues I was having and it answered my own questions. I'm hoping other people troubleshooting older egos can also find some answers here too!

I also came across this thread, which might help people adjust the settings on their older egos.

How to set up your ego - http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2780657


This thread contains lots of information about egos produced from 2005-2008 including the SL series. Don't be frightened to read and go make a thread, because the answer is more than likely here, just browse through until you find it. An easy way to locate your question is to press CTRL + F and it will bring up a search window, start typing something related to your issue and it will most likely find it. Post general EGO questions here and you will most likely get a quick response, if you have an in-depth issue, it will most likely be better off posted in its own thread. Thanks!

I was given permission by a mod to post this.

EGO Vs...

Once again, there is a thread for this...Generally, the EGO is the better of the two markers, simply because it shoots well, it is very reliable, light weight, and gets the job done. Use the EGO Vs. thread to get an accurate comparison between guns, I try to post there often so people use it, but for now here are some EGO vs. EGOs.

05 VS 06 - The 05 and 06 models are nearly the same. The 05 in fact is slightly lighter. The 06 has new board software and obviously different milling. They will both shoot generally the same, and both great guns. In this situation I would go for the 05 simply because it is cheaper.

06 VS Ego7 - The ego7 for sure, it is a little more expensive, but is a complete upgrade from the 06. There is extensive milling on the 07 model, making it lighter and smaller than the 06 model. The board is new also, and it comes in a thinner frame which also is more comfortable. The ego7 is loaded with newer internals, a new HPR, and barrel (2 piece eclipse shaft). The cure bolt is also loaded stock into the Ego7. Once again, both markers will shoot great, but in this case the Ego7 will do better than the 06.

Ego7 VS Ego8 - Both are good guns, the 08 a little more expensive because it is newer. The Ego8 does resemble the SL-74, and does have quite a few advantages over the Ego7. It has a newly added QEV block, SL style trigger, HPR spring as opposed to the shim stack in the 07, high flow valve, zick rammer stock, new regulator pistons, more extensive milling (very ugly in my opinion), and a stepped valve chamber and valve guide. I would go with the 07, because I am cheap mainly, and it will perform my required 13.3 BPS just as well as the ego8, but if your looking to maximize performance, then go with the Ego8 for the above reasons.

Ego8 VS SL-74 - No, the Ego8 and SL-74 are NOT the same gun, the internals are still different, though very similar. The SL-74 has a different LPR, is even lighter than the Ego8 with more extensive milling (Which looks great opposed to the 08 haha), and a full eclipse shaft barrel kit. The SL will perform better than the 08, but is more expensive. If you have the choice, i'd go with the SL-74.

What are the best settings for my ego?

We don't know, each and every ego is different, nobody else's settings will work just as good for you as they do for them. If you must find somebody else's settings, try using the settings thread floating around this forum. To set your own ego. Read the manual and learn about how each setting affects your gun, and then you can set them accordingly and tune them to perfection. A chrono comes in handy when trying to set up your ego for maximum noise reduction, less kick, and most consistency. If you are clueless, just keep them stock.

My ears are bleeding because of my ego...

Some complain that their EGO is just too loud. Compared to a spool valve gun, it will sound much louder because it is a poppit valve gun. The noise a gun makes largely depends upon the barrel, so try different barrels until you can find one that makes your gun quiet...if this really matters. Also, a lower dwell will reduce the noise your ego makes, so lower it to the point where your gun is shooting, but is still consistent over the chrono. If it still bugs you, try purchasing a zick rammer kit for the 07 models and up. (It comes stock in the SL-74 and Ego8)

My EGO kicks too much...

To reduce the kick in your ego, you could purchase a lightweight rammer, such as a titanium rammer. This has given people issues though with breaking the valve stem, or even inconsistency. A free way to lower your kick, would also be to decrease the LPR pressure. Reset your regs and tune them to a point where your LPR is less but you are still getting consistency at a high enough FPS. Also try lowering your dwell.

How do I change the settings on my EGO?

If tournament lock is off, you turn the gun on, hold the power button until it asks to turn off all the way, then press up or down on the arrows, and you are in the settings menu. If you have tournament lock on, you can open the right grip panel, and hold the red button when turning on your EGO. To turn off the tournament lock, turn lock to 'off'.

How do I get stock settings on my EGO?

Simple, go to the settings menu in your board, find the presets, and load factory.

My eyes aren't reading anything...

Try these:
1. Clean the eyes
2. Take them out/put back in correctly (to realign them)
3. Change battery
4. Check for a pinched wire/make sure it is plugged in all the way
5. Replace if broken/damaged

My ego won't shoot over XX BPS!!!

Are the eyes off? If your shooting with the eyes off the fastest it will go is 15. In order to shoot faster (with the eyes on), you have to change the ROF cap parameter in the settings menu. You can also set the ROF cap to 'off' to use an uncapped mode of fire. 05/06 EGOs do not shoot over 15 with the eyes on, but the Maniac board can.

How many of this type of EGO was produced?

You will probably get a rough estimate if you ask around here. Your best bet is to email PE to find out.

My EGO won't fully cycle/acting like training mode

Could be many things, try these suggestions:

1. Dirty/clogged QEV, clean it out/try again.
2. New/fresh high quality battery.
3. Broken QEV diaphragm

The diaphragm is the round black piece in your QEV, it should be in 1 piece, if it is in 2 it is broken. www.paintballshowcase.com sells them.

4. Your on/off could be depressing your tank pin too much, if you are turning it all the way in, back it out 1/4-1/2 of a turn, so air is still flowing into the gun, but is taking some pressure off the tank pin.

What do I use on the rammer/regs?

Rammer - Use a light coat of oil on the rammer and the o-rings, use something like 3 in 1, gold cup, or Planet Eclipse oil...

HPR - Use lube on the o-rings, and a VERY LIGHT coat of oil mentioned above on the shim stack. If you have a spring, it doesn't require oil.

LPR - Lube on the o-rings, any kind of dow 33 will work fine, hater sauce, or lurker, or other high quality gun greases will do fine.

LP or HP tank for my EGO?

Planet Eclipse recommends HP, because it is fail proof. I'd recommend using an HP tank because it will never fail you. Low pressure can cause drop off issues and may not always work. Even though it can work fine, which it has in many cases, there is a chance it won't. If you are stuck with an LP tank and it works, fine, but if it is causing problems, switch to HP ASAP.

I lost my manual/don't have it so I can't fix this myself...

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1660163 You can find online manuals there.

How can I tune my EGO to perfection?

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1243050 That thread should help.

My EGO is super inconsistent...

Check to make sure all 16 shims are there, you can purchase a missing one from www.paintballshowcase.com

If you have them all, replace rammer o-rings, they wear out easily.

My bolt is popping off the rammer when I shoot.

Take out the bolt, remove the bolt bin, and adjust the spring that pops out when the pin is removed so it will stay on the rammer.

My EGO is chopping paint...

1. Lower LPR pressure/reset regs
2. Lower dwell.
3. Invest in a cure bolt!
4. Up ball/empty setting.
5. Turn down speed settings on hopper.
6. Use bigger bore barrel.
7. Try paint from a different case. Could have gotten a bad batch.

What is the best barrel for my EGO

Id stick with the stock, looks great on EGOs and is an eclipse product. If you want a barrel, Id go with a Dye UL or deadlywinds.

Is my EGO an 05 or 06 XSV?

There is only difference between the 05 and 06 XSV EGO (Not the SL series), the detents. The 05 detents are shaped differently from the 06s. The 06 detents look the the 07s, 08s, and SLs. The 05s have a more circular form in the middle, with two oval projections going left and right.

Where can I find replacement parts for my EGO? (including CCU kits)

1. Google
2. www.paintballshowcase.com
3. Planet Eclipse 

I am just getting started on this thread, I will try and add questions frequently, but for now this is what I could think of.

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Old 02-07-2008, 06:20 PM #2
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Ego8 VS. SL-74...These are the FACTS.

Unique SL74 Features:

SL OOPS Assembly
SL In-Line Regulator
SL Valve Guide Kit
SL Trigger Frame
SL Trigger
SL Zick Kit Rammer Cap
SL Zick Kit Rammer Shaft
SL LPR Torpedo
SL LPR Cap
SL LPR Body
SL LPR Piston
SL Cure Bolt
SL Contour Eye Covers
SL PCB Board
Dual Swivel Hi-Flo QEVs
5-Piece SL Shaft Barrel Kit -- It comes with 3 backs and 2 fronts: Backs: .685, .689, .693 bore sizes. Fronts: 14 and 16 inch setups
Viz-Eyes Red BBSS System
Expansion Port on PCB

Ego8

Ultra-Lightweight Monoform Body
Deftek Offset Feed Tube
Flush-Fitting Eye Covers
Integrated Rammer Housing
Integrated FRM
Cure Bolt
Zick Rammer and Rammer Cap
Stepped Valve Chamber and Valve Guide
High-Flow Valve
Q-Block – New 1-Piece Dual QEV block
Light-weight Aluminium Regulator Pistons
Superior Coil Spring Regulator Design
Dual Trigger Sensing Board
Duel Instrument Grade Ball-Raced Trigger
Magnetic Trigger Return
Skinny-Fit Co-Moulded Rubber E-Star Grips
T-Slot Rail Mounting System
Major Tournament Preset Modes
Capped and Uncapped Semi and Ramping Modes
9 Debounce Modes
Direct-Acting Solenoid
Black-on-White Transflective LCD Display
Swivel In-Line Regulator
Lever Operated Clamping Feed
Shaft II 2-Piece 14” 0.693” Barrel
On/Off/Purge System
Lower Cyclic Mass
Less Kick
Quieter Shot
Improved Efficiency
Low Profile Break-Beam Eyes
New Clam-Shell packaging
Tool Tube Hex Key Set

They are different..Not the same...SL > Ego8

My ego is leaking...

To fix this, it depends upon where the leak is coming from. If its coming from a certain general area, start there. So if its leaking from the HPR, replace o-rings, leaks toward the back are usually rammer o-rings which are worn down easily, or the QEVs.

My ego is leaking from the grip frame...

1. Check if leak is from solenoid, if so, strip it down and relube the seal.
2. Check QEVs and make sure the hoses are fitted correctly on the barbs and are sealing.
3. Replace rammer o-rings.

My ego is leaking down the barrel...

1. Check QEV
2. Try shooting a few shots and see if it seals.
3. Check rammer housing seals.

What type of lube and oil do I use?

Oil - Eclipse, 3 in 1, gold cup
Lube - Dow 33, hater, lurker, any high quality lube that is well known.

Generic settings for ZICK kit users

dwell: 14 (I use a dwell of 13 with my ti zick.)
fsdo: 2 (raise if your still getting drop off)
debounce: level 1
empty: 2
ball: 1
pull: 4
release:4
solenoid: low power (when playing in the extremes raise to high)
BBSS:low
Lpr: flush
Hpr: shooting 278 +/- 0.5

My Ego Smells Like Its Burning, What is it?

When your first break in your new ego it will most likey have a "burning" smell to it this is just caused by the oil on the rammer being worked in on the gun. This has been confirmed by Jack and Nicky T.

My QEV diaphragm keeps tearing/breaking...

Here is what Jack Wood has just told us.

1) On 05 and 06 EGOs the little red QEVs were actually a custom designed bought-in item from a "reputable" US pneumatics supplier.
2) There were failure issues with 05 and 06 QEVs. The difference being that 05 and 06 QEVs could not easily be dis-assembled and the seal replaced. They were sealed at the factory, and taking them apart needed either special tooling or destroys the QEV. The QEV had to be replaced in its entirety.
3) For 07 we wanted to: make the QEV more durable (lots of 05/06 QEVs snapped on the stem) and make them user serviceable. We did that by adding the stainless screw and cap and making it unscrew easily to replace the seal.
4) The 07 was our first attempt at making a QEV assembly in-house
5) The diaphragm is manufactured in the exact same material to the same geometry as the 05/06 QEV diaphragm by a leading specialist seal manufacturer in the UK
6) The porting into and out of the 07 QEV is over 200% larger and hence the flow into and out of the QEV considerably higher. The forces acting on the diaphragm are therefore greater.
7) Whilst the gun is in warranty, we will warrant the QEV diaphragm just the same as we would warranty any other component. However if you would like spares, we offer the QEV pack.
8) At $30 once you factor in packaging, shipping and handling the 10-pack of diaphragms is virtually cost. At $15 for 10, they would be considerably below cost, of even just the diaphragms on their own, without the additional costs added.
9) It would be easy to call the diaphragm a “consumable” item like any other seal, but we don’t. We understand that it is frustrating enough to have a gun that doesn’t work, without having the frustration of having to fork out cash to get it working again. Therefore we would rather keep players up and running with the least hassle possible.
10) An area of unknowns! We know that different lubricants can have different effects on different material, particularly seals. We don’t know how much of a contributing factor this is when it comes to the QEV diaphragm, but it must be considered. If you see multiple failures on one gun and not on another, is a different lube (or quantity of) being used on one over the other?
11) Players may want to consider the QEV diaphragm just like any other seal on the gun and replace them as they would replace rammer o-rings, reg o-rings, or any other seal. They do an enormous amount of work and see huge forces acting on them in normal use. They are in no way indestructible.

How your regulators should look (disassembled) Thanks to Chuckles23.




Cure for cure bolt popping off rammer, according to E-techy

if you take two 006 orings, and put them into the bolt spring slot, BEFORE the spring, then the depressor cap thing, the bolt pin will NEVER shoot up. did it as a quick fix today, and it works MUCH better then streching the spring.

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spelling error on the what ego is min 06 or 05. you put once not one.
also try adding when there is a leak down the barrel to replace rammer orings.
also like when to replace orings.

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spelling error on the what ego is min 06 or 05. you put once not one.
also try adding when there is a leak down the barrel to replace rammer orings.
also like when to replace orings.

Nice Job
I'm currently working on This leak replace this o-ring question.

I'm busy lately so give me a day or 2 lol.
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^^^Best moment ever^^^

This kid is one of the 5 people I'll let do anything to my guns and has fixed my ego7 4 times and sl74 twice so I can confirm this in info isnt a 10 year old BSing people. I book marked this and its on my iPhone home
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"Dan my guns broken *lpr screw out all the way*, I need ur help.
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^^^Best moment ever^^^

This kid is one of the 5 people I'll let do anything to my guns and has fixed my ego7 4 times and sl74 twice so I can confirm this in info isnt a 10 year old BSing people. I book marked this and its on my iPhone home
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Kid? I'm like 4 years older than you!

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Dan just a suggestion, maybe put some generic settings in there for the zick kit that users can tune to work best with their gun after, just a ballpark area. Hopefully that saves allot of threads. Mine are:

dwell: 14 (I use a dwell of 13 with my ti zick.)
fsdo: 2 (raise if your still getting drop off)
debounce: level 1
empty: 2
ball: 1
pull: 4
release:4
solenoid: low power (when playing in the extremes raise to high)
BBSS:low
Lpr: flush
Hpr: shooting 278 +/- 0.5
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Dan just a suggestion, maybe put some generic settings in there for the zick kit that users can tune to work best with their gun after, just a ballpark area. Hopefully that saves allot of threads. Mine are:

dwell: 14 (I use a dwell of 13 with my ti zick.)
fsdo: 2 (raise if your still getting drop off)
debounce: level 1
empty: 2
ball: 1
pull: 4
release:4
solenoid: low power (when playing in the extremes raise to high)
BBSS:low
Lpr: flush
Hpr: shooting 278 +/- 0.5
Ok thanks chuckles...adding this now.
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No problem, hopefully it stops some of the "what settings for my zick" threads.
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Great thread. All very useful. Not sure if this is intended to be a question /answer, but here it goes:

I have burst two QEV diaphragms in the last 4 months. Very annoying. I am guessing it has to do with the airflow for sure, somehow, it must be too strong for that little bugger.

Question is, what do I adjust? First thought would be HPR. I am shooting around 287-ish. I know when I start adjusting the HPR lower, it might solve my diaphragm problem, but it will lower my FPS.

Does the LPR play any role in this? If I adjust the HPR power down, is there something i can do with the LPR to bring the FPS back up?

Maybe some other adjustments on my settings?

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Great thread. All very useful. Not sure if this is intended to be a question /answer, but here it goes:

I have burst two QEV diaphragms in the last 4 months. Very annoying. I am guessing it has to do with the airflow for sure, somehow, it must be too strong for that little bugger.

Question is, what do I adjust? First thought would be HPR. I am shooting around 287-ish. I know when I start adjusting the HPR lower, it might solve my diaphragm problem, but it will lower my FPS.

Does the LPR play any role in this? If I adjust the HPR power down, is there something i can do with the LPR to bring the FPS back up?

Maybe some other adjustments on my settings?

Thanks.
hey and thanks for using this thread. hopefully you got a quick response.

Anyways, first i'd try resetting your regs. By this tune your HPR and LPR. Also, when you install your diaphragm, add a light drop of oil to it, this could cause it to break. The cause of this is hard to tell, but latley i've been trying to get to the bottom of it. Start where I said, and then go from there, and I should have more information soon. Also, break down your QEV/s and clean them all out good.

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Quick response for sure!

Very helpful. By resetting my LPR, I am guessing it should be flush, which I think it is.

What about the HPR. How do you reset that? I thought about a small amount of oil to the diaphragm, but wasn't sure. It is very dry where we are at. Thought that might contribute. Then again, my buddy's 07 has not had the same problem.

So, I'll start with the Regs. Just need some tips on resetting the HPR.

When you get to the bottom of this, it will be some pretty darn useful information as I have seen a few posts in the main EGO forum reference this.

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Quick response for sure!

Very helpful. By resetting my LPR, I am guessing it should be flush, which I think it is.

What about the HPR. How do you reset that? I thought about a small amount of oil to the diaphragm, but wasn't sure. It is very dry where we are at. Thought that might contribute. Then again, my buddy's 07 has not had the same problem.

So, I'll start with the Regs. Just need some tips on resetting the HPR.

When you get to the bottom of this, it will be some pretty darn useful information as I have seen a few posts in the main EGO forum reference this.

Thanks again!
Try playing with your LPR so it will adjust how much you need to set your HPR to to get your desired FPS. You want to have the lowest setting on the HPR as you can, so you'd want like 3 turns out over 5 as an example. LPR flush is a good place to start, then use the HPR from there. I'd also just break down the QEV and clean it all up, give your rammer sufficient oil so it will get in the QEV and keep it oiled (not too much!!!)...And add a small drop of oil to the diaphragm itself.

Also, put dwell to stock.

Also, whats the avg you cycle your EGO at? If you are constantly shooting it uncapped training or like 30 BPS or something that would cause stress on the QEV...that could be your problem. If your just shooting 15 or 13, the only way I could see it breaking is shooting 10 cases nonstop.

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Will do. Have to wait on my replacement diaphragm though. Should be here sometime this week. But to answer some of the questions up front:

Average cycle is somewhere between 12-20 on semi. I have slow fingers.

I play on PSP mode at 15 (going back to 13.3). Not really into the uber-machinegun thing.

When you say "three turns" on the HPR. Is that going from the lowest setting or frum some other start point?

I'll go ahead and do all mentioned and just wait for the diaphragm
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My Ego Smells Like Its Burning, What is it?

When your first break in your new ego it will most likey have a "burning" smell to it this is just caused by the oil on the rammer being worked in on the gun. This has been confirmed by Jack and Nicky T.

A few of this threads have been around so just add that in
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Will do. Have to wait on my replacement diaphragm though. Should be here sometime this week. But to answer some of the questions up front:

Average cycle is somewhere between 12-20 on semi. I have slow fingers.

I play on PSP mode at 15 (going back to 13.3). Not really into the uber-machinegun thing.

When you say "three turns" on the HPR. Is that going from the lowest setting or frum some other start point?

I'll go ahead and do all mentioned and just wait for the diaphragm
I meant 3 turns from all the way in, or 0 fps basically. But I just said 3 over an example, the point is, you want the minimum setting you can achieve.
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Skimmed through a few things. I bolded things i added/changed. Just a few suggestions. I will help you look through/add things that need it. I doubt people will read this, but good idea.

How do I change the settings on my EGO?

If tournament lock is off, you turn the gun on, hold the power button until it asks to turn off all the way, then press up or down on the arrows, and you are in the settings menu. If you have tournament lock on, you can open the right grip panel, and hold the red button when turning on your EGO. To turn off the tournament lock, turn lock to 'off'.

Note: pre-07 egos do not have tourney lock.

Are the eyes off? If your shooting with the eyes off the fastest it will go is 15.4 bpd. In order to shoot faster (with the eyes on), you have to change the ROF cap parameter in the settings menu. You can also set the ROF cap to 'off' to use an uncapped mode of fire. (Note: You can't set ROF cap off with pre-07 egos) 05/06 EGOs do not shoot over 15 with the eyes on in Ramping mode other then the maniac board or select aftermarker boards. Semi 1 and training mode are the only settings that are uncapped on pre-07 egos.

My ego is leaking from the grip frame...

1. Check if leak is from solenoid, if so, strip it down and relube the seal. (only on 05/06 egos, 07/sl74/08 egos solenoid's are not self servicable. Any self servicing of these noids will void your warranty.
2. Check QEVs and make sure the hoses are fitted correctly on the barbs and are sealing. On 05/06 egos QEVs should be red loctited into the rammer housing.
3. Replace rammer o-rings.
4. Replace orings on Rammer housing/LPR body.
5. Check hoses for leaks. Replace if needed.


My ego is leaking down the barrel...

1. Try shooting a few shots and see if it seals
2. Check rammer housing seals.
3. Replace #8 rammer orings.
4. Check/replace orings on LPR body.
5. Check/replace valve.


My EGO won't fully cycle/acting like training mode

Could be many things, try these suggestions:

Replace battery with high quality alkaline.
Oil/replace #11 oring on rammer.
Reset dwell to stock.
Set LPR to flush.
Check hoses for blockage/excess oil.
Make sure LPR piston seal is intact.
Check rear QEV diaphragm. Should be in 1 piece.
If using a Ti rammer, replace with stock.


My bolt is popping off the rammer when I shoot.

Take out the bolt, remove the bolt bin, and adjust the spring that pops out when the pin is removed so it will stay on the rammer. (only with cure bolt)

My EGO is chopping paint...

1. Lower LPR pressure/reset regs
2. Lower dwell.
3. Invest in a cure bolt!
4. Up ball/empty setting.
5. Turn down speed settings on hopper.
6. Use bigger bore barrel.
7. Try paint from a different case. Could have gotten a bad batch.

What is the best barrel for my EGO

Personal opinion. Would suggest a barrel kit to bore paint. Poppit valve markers such as the ego should slightly overbore to keep from barrel breaks.

Dumbed down differences between SL74 and 08 ego:

SL74
3.10 Software
Expansion Board
2 QEVs
Zick Rammer
SL Trigger
SL Barrel Kit
Spring Style Reg
SL Hard Anno Pistons
Laser Eyes
HP & LP Valve
1.89 lbs Stock
SL on/off, LPR cap, Torpedo integrated in the body, etc.

08 Ego
4.00 Software
No Expansion Board (Available for resale)
QEV Block
Zick Rammer
SL Style Trigger
No SL barrel kit (Available for resale)
Spring Style Reg
Normal BBSS System (Laser Eyes available for resale)
Redesigned LP Valve (Quieter...Seperate Valve not available for resale)
1.99 lbs Stock
Normal on/off, LPR cap, Torpedo, etc.
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Old 02-10-2008, 03:11 PM #19
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I meant 3 turns from all the way in, or 0 fps basically. But I just said 3 over an example, the point is, you want the minimum setting you can achieve.
Thanks. I have become smarter from this thread! I'll provide feedback once I get her tuned up!
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Insight on QEV diaphragm issues posted by Jack Wood.


1) On 05 and 06 EGOs the little red QEVs were actually a custom designed bought-in item from a "reputable" US pneumatics supplier.
2) There were failure issues with 05 and 06 QEVs. The difference being that 05 and 06 QEVs could not easily be dis-assembled and the seal replaced. They were sealed at the factory, and taking them apart needed either special tooling or destroys the QEV. The QEV had to be replaced in its entirety.
3) For 07 we wanted to: make the QEV more durable (lots of 05/06 QEVs snapped on the stem) and make them user serviceable. We did that by adding the stainless screw and cap and making it unscrew easily to replace the seal.
4) The 07 was our first attempt at making a QEV assembly in-house
5) The diaphragm is manufactured in the exact same material to the same geometry as the 05/06 QEV diaphragm by a leading specialist seal manufacturer in the UK
6) The porting into and out of the 07 QEV is over 200% larger and hence the flow into and out of the QEV considerably higher. The forces acting on the diaphragm are therefore greater.
7) Whilst the gun is in warranty, we will warrant the QEV diaphragm just the same as we would warranty any other component. However if you would like spares, we offer the QEV pack.
8) At $30 once you factor in packaging, shipping and handling the 10-pack of diaphragms is virtually cost. At $15 for 10, they would be considerably below cost, of even just the diaphragms on their own, without the additional costs added.
9) It would be easy to call the diaphragm a “consumable” item like any other seal, but we don’t. We understand that it is frustrating enough to have a gun that doesn’t work, without having the frustration of having to fork out cash to get it working again. Therefore we would rather keep players up and running with the least hassle possible.
10) An area of unknowns! We know that different lubricants can have different effects on different material, particularly seals. We don’t know how much of a contributing factor this is when it comes to the QEV diaphragm, but it must be considered. If you see multiple failures on one gun and not on another, is a different lube (or quantity of) being used on one over the other?
11) Players may want to consider the QEV diaphragm just like any other seal on the gun and replace them as they would replace rammer o-rings, reg o-rings, or any other seal. They do an enormous amount of work and see huge forces acting on them in normal use. They are in no way indestructible.
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congratz on the stickie! maybe have pics of LPR/HPR setup? common problem at my field. id take pics but my gats in RI. congratz again!
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