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Old 01-30-2008, 07:17 PM #1
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who is the most conservative gop canidate. rank them in order

most conservative
1thompson MIA
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6AMERICAS MAYOR MIA
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:20 PM #2
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Ron Paul at 5? What is your definition of conservatism? Maintaining a military force in all regions of the world and rebuilding entire nations for "national security"? I always thought conservatism was small federal government, low taxes, and states rights. Guess I was wrong
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:21 PM #3
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Ron Paul is should be at the top.
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:25 PM #4
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Is anyone else sick of these labels, liberal/conservative? Theres more too it than just liberal/conservative. its not all black and white
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:30 PM #5
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Ron Paul
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:33 PM #6
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Thats basically it in a nutshell.
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:45 PM #7
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Is anyone else sick of these labels, liberal/conservative? Theres more too it than just liberal/conservative. its not all black and white
It is mostly the conservatives that love to throw around labels. Whether it is them labeling themselves conservative(as if it is something to strive for) or they are attacking the other side, by using "liberal" as if it is a curse word. I only bring out the labels like "neo-con" when people start first.
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:48 PM #8
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Ron Paul at 5? What is your definition of conservatism? Maintaining a military force in all regions of the world and rebuilding entire nations for "national security"? I always thought conservatism was small federal government, low taxes, and states rights. Guess I was wrong
conservative as in having morals (pro life, pro family, leading by example kinda like thompson)
being supported by fox news.
valueing american economic success at any expense especially the enviorment. isnt Ron paul a member of the Congressional Green Scissors Coalition? very conservative eh??
ron paul also thinks welfare is a huge cause of racism, yet he wants to keep it for americans. what happened to privitization.
o yeah he wants young americans to privatize their long term benifits yet has no plan for this and wants to keep ss for the current people on it. so how on earth is this going to work. people paying into something they wont get. very conservative.
he also doesnt address the judicial branch and his plans there to a significant degree
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being supported by fox news.
valueing american economic success at any expense especially the enviorment.
That truly defines conservatism! You master politics like you have mastered grammar. Good job.
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conservative as in having morals (pro life, pro family, leading by example kinda like thompson)
being supported by fox news.
valueing american economic success at any expense especially the enviorment. isnt Ron paul a member of the Congressional Green Scissors Coalition? very conservative eh??
ron paul also thinks welfare is a huge cause of racism, yet he wants to keep it for americans. what happened to privitization.
o yeah he wants young americans to privatize their long term benifits yet has no plan for this and wants to keep ss for the current people on it. so how on earth is this going to work. people paying into something they wont get. very conservative.
he also doesnt address the judicial branch and his plans there to a significant degree
Holy ****. You have no clue about politics. That is nothing what conservatism really means. Morals have nothing to do with anything with a POLITICAL ideology. What are you, 12?
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ok, i'm not saying this because i'm a RP supporter but because it is the truth.

Ron Paul is the most conservative candidate on stage. Ron Paul makes Fred Thompson look like a socialist.

Ron Paul defines what a true conservative is, hes probably the most conservative member on congress. Theres a big difference between conservatives and neo-con's. Learn the difference or definition between traditional conservatives and neo-con's before you make a choice.
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ron paul is the ONLY true conservative candidate
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who is the most conservative gop canidate. rank them in order

most conservative
1thompson MIA
2mccain
3huckabee
4romney
5ron paul
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McCain at 2? Huck at 3? What kind of "conservative" are you talking about?

Most Conservative:

1) Thompson
2) Romney
3) Giuliani/Paul

(large gap)

4) Huck

(large gap)

5) McCain
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Would a neo-conservative like to explain to me how maintaining a military force around the world and achieving national security by building foreign nations is conservative, and why Bill Clinton, Harry Truman, and Lyndon B Johnson are not conservative for doing this?
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:40 PM #15
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who is the most conservative gop canidate. rank them in order

most conservative
1thompson MIA
2mccain
3huckabee
4romney
5ron paul
6AMERICAS MAYOR MIA
McCain at #2? Are you serious? He's probably the most moderate conservative in the race.
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:44 PM #16
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Is anyone else sick of these labels, liberal/conservative? Theres more too it than just liberal/conservative. its not all black and white
YES! Regardless of who it is, I highly dislike it. Classifying people in such ways is a simple way to assemble all the people you don't agree with into a category, that way you know when to completely ignore whatever they have to say, regardless of whether or not they have a point. Now, the classification system in itself is not something I disagree with, it's a great way to organize ideas, however, in this day in age, it's surmounted to a way to classify people, and a very ignorant way at that.

This very forum succumbs to this feat, which is why I try not to say what my political party is, just my ideas.

A 'My own thing' party would be awesome. Something that expressed their ideas and not their political affiliation.

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It is mostly the conservatives that love to throw around labels. Whether it is them labeling themselves conservative(as if it is something to strive for) or they are attacking the other side, by using "liberal" as if it is a curse word. I only bring out the labels like "neo-con" when people start first.
Does anyone else find irony in this statement?

Let me just tell you, everyone does this, it's not just the conservatives, it's EVERYONE... and you're a testament to it.
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:53 PM #17
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McCain at #2? Are you serious? He's probably the most moderate conservative in the race.
Moderate? He's the male version of Hilary Clinton, pre-Iraq.
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Would a neo-conservative like to explain to me how maintaining a military force around the world and achieving national security by building foreign nations is conservative, and why Bill Clinton, Harry Truman, and Lyndon B Johnson are not conservative for doing this?
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Like it's been stated, those people, and your explanation of what a conservative are not even close. You described neo-conservatives.

Ron Paul is the only true conservative running for the GOP. The rest are neo-cons. End of story.
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McCain at 2? Huck at 3? What kind of "conservative" are you talking about?

Most Conservative:

1) Thompson
2) Romney
3) Giuliani/Paul

(large gap)

4) Huck

(large gap)

5) McCain
You honestly would put Ron Paul in the same spot as the guy who is for gun control, pro-same sex marriage, and pro-amnesty? Give me a break. Ron Paul is the only Candidate on either side that even mentions the Constitution in the debates, as well as having a perfect record on never voting to raise taxes. You can't get more conservative than that.
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You honestly would put Ron Paul in the same spot as the guy who is for gun control, pro-same sex marriage, and pro-amnesty? Give me a break. Ron Paul is the only Candidate on either side that even mentions the Constitution in the debates, as well as having a perfect record on never voting to raise taxes. You can't get more conservative than that.
But he doesn't support the troops!
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