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Old 01-29-2008, 06:18 PM #43
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So, it kind of sounds as if you two are discussing how this character guy was able to magically float through the air at such a decreased flying rate, implied through the actual plot itself?
thats basically what im implying. bullet time, although used for awesome gameplay, was also described to run through the characters mind.
it was all explained in a single sentence he said, which i will try to play the game and recall.
its basically saying that when his adrenaline is going that high, and he's in a life or death situation... everything slows down for him and he's more aware of what's going on
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Old 01-29-2008, 06:41 PM #44
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thats basically what im implying. bullet time, although used for awesome gameplay, was also described to run through the characters mind.
it was all explained in a single sentence he said, which i will try to play the game and recall.
its basically saying that when his adrenaline is going that high, and he's in a life or death situation... everything slows down for him and he's more aware of what's going on
Ok, I think I see where you're coming from. But, I don't think bullet time was suppost to be linked (litterally) to how the character was able to focus in extremely fast/intense situations. If that statement you're mainly referring too took place by the stairs in the subway, then I think that was implied to be a bit of a cliche', in response to the real definition of "bullet time" provided by hollywood

However, I will be EXTREMELY disappointed with this film if Marky-Mark doesn't constantly talk to himself in this movie. In fact, I'd probably like the film to start out with face to face dialogue, then as he finds out everything, have the VAST majority of what's said be nothing more then his thoughts - exactly like the game itself.

Heh, after such events I don't want to see this guy smiling even once.
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Sort of like the voice-over narration in Sin City?
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Old 01-29-2008, 06:45 PM #46
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Sort of like the voice-over narration in Sin City?
Yes. Come to think of it, I think I like Clive Owens voice better for the part. Actually, he may be more suited for the role, now that you mention that film

Unless I'm mistaken, I think his voice in that movie, as well as Inside Man matches more accurately in tone.

EDIT: If I had the first game, I'd play it over a little ways just to have a better idea. The last time I played it was right around the time it was released to rent/buy.
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Old 01-29-2008, 06:47 PM #47
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Lets hope this is actually a good remake.
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Short and stocky is pretty much what the guy in the video game looked like. he wasn't some 7+ft. basketball player. He was an every day muffled up white cop w/ a decent farmer like build.
I've always pictured Max as being tall and lean, around 6'1" to me is about right. Mark Wahlberg is 5'7" and to me, that's just too short for this type of character. Also Max really is a "everyman" type of character and if he's portraying the average american, well then shouldn't he be the average height of an adult male in America, which is 5'10"? When I think Mark Wahlberg, I think short man syndrome. When I think Max Payne, I think of a character propelled by angst, hate and indescribable tragedy...


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I'll go halfs with you on his voice. It isn't quite as groggy/deep as the voice over in the game, but I think (visually) he's fine. No, I haven't seen that full out rage/revenge like look in his eyes, but for an all around actor in full filling the role, (as a whole) he's a good choice.

I mean, who else would you choose? Sure, it would be better to hear his thoughts identical to the game, but that wouldn't be right for a movie at all - two voices (in tone) making up one character makes no sense. Or, ALL thoughts (dialogue wise) and nothing else would be overkill IMO.
There's another strike against Wahlberg right there, his voice. Seriously, do you really want intense noir monologues with a south boston accent? Or would you want someone who can speak with clearcut american english? I don't think Wahlberg can pull that off either.

While I don't think he's best choice, he's the one who keeps coming to mind and that's Nathan Fillion. He truly has the appropriate range, stature(6'1") and build of what I think Max Payne could be. Fillion is such a better actor and there's plenty of proof. Watch the scene in Saving Private Ryan when he plays "James Frederick Ryan from Minnesota" and watch his breakdown, it's heartwrenching. Watch him in Firefly/Serenity as he goes from delivering fresh sarcastic quips to intense, vicious sincerity. The thing is, I don't know if he could pull off the voice overs and that's a very powerful element of the game/noir story. Otherwise, he would be in my top three to play Max, the other two, don't know yet...
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:03 PM #50
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I've always pictured Max as being tall and lean, around 6'1" to me is about right. Mark Wahlberg is 5'7" and to me, that's just too short for this type of character. Also Max really is a "everyman" type of character and if he's portraying the average american, well then shouldn't he be the average height of an adult male in America, which is 5'10"? When I think Mark Wahlberg, I think short man syndrome. When I think Max Payne, I think of a character propelled by angst, hate and indescribable tragedy...
Well, the guy doesn't seem that short to me, to be honest. However, his body structure and face expressions IMO stick out more in matching Max P, rather then his exact height.

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There's another strike against Wahlberg right there, his voice. Seriously, do you really want intense noir monologues with a south boston accent? Or would you want someone who can speak with clearcut american english? I don't think Wahlberg can pull that off either.

While I don't think he's best choice, he's the one who keeps coming to mind and that's Nathan Fillion. He truly has the appropriate range, stature(6'1") and build of what I think Max Payne could be. Fillion is such a better actor and there's plenty of proof. Watch the scene in Saving Private Ryan when he plays "James Frederick Ryan from Minnesota" and watch his breakdown, it's heartwrenching. Watch him in Firefly/Serenity as he goes from delivering fresh sarcastic quips to intense, vicious sincerity. The thing is, I don't know if he could pull off the voice overs and that's a very powerful element of the game/noir story. Otherwise, he would be in my top three to play Max, the other two, don't know yet...
James Frederick Ryan from Minnesota......... Is that the FIRST Ryan in whom Tom Hanks met up with, while then soon after broke down crying when thinking his little brothers were killed, killed in action? Which ended up being completely false due to their age and being in a class room?
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That's the one...
I can't picture him mimicking Max P. at all, other then his make up in build. I think I would need to see more of his work to have a more definitive opinion, but judging from that scene alone, he's a bit on the otherside of the spectrum - personality wise. Max P. is the type who is out for blood, nothing more. There's nothing but hate, revenge, and complete rage running through this guys veins after having lost what he did. Or, in other words the guy had turned into a natural killer. In which, the whole crying and look in the other guys eyes at the time of that one particular scene simulated nothing of that nature from a more psychological stand point.

Perhaps I'm missing something, but I think I remember that scene. He had a confused look about him at first after Tom Hanks laid out the confirmed losses, then started to shake a little in his voice, then let his eyes go, and lastly started crying over it all while dropping to like one knee. Or, something a long those lines right? Oh, and afterwards having properly clarified, he got back up and in a desperate sense of tone, asked for re-assurance in whether his little brothers were alright? Tom Hanks said something like: "Yeah yeah, I'm sure they're fine"
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I cited that scene as I knew it would be recognizable and to show that he's capable of a full range of emotion, which Max demonstrates in the game. Mark Wahlberg has done anything but that. You really need to watch more of Nathan Fillion's work then compare to it Wahlberg's which are as follows:

Rennassiance Man - meathead soldier
Fear - insane meathead boyfriend
Boogie Nights - meathead wannabe pornstar
Three Kings - see Rennassiance Man
The Perfect Storm - meathead fisherman
Planet of the Apes - meathead astronaut
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The Italian Job - meathead criminal with a pinchant for thievery
Invincible - meathead wannabe football player
The Departed - meathead cop with south boston accent

Yeah, he would be great as Max Payne...
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Lets hope this is actually a good remake.
seeing as this is the first movie, i dont think there will be a remake for a while.
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What are you referring to when implying the word, "meat head?"

Well, I've seen a lot of Marks films, and he does simulate Max in character in a lot of ways. Shooter for example was ok, being how all his motives were based around revenge, in short.

Nathan I don't know much about. But, going off that bit of acting, his dramatic approach was mostly in support of an emotion completely the opposite of Max's. So, if you're using his performance there as a core example, I don't think it applies. In that scene he was completely broken up, rather then fueled with hate and revenge.

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seeing as this is the first movie, i dont think there will be a remake for a while.
Nah, he meant a remake of the game, NOT a sequel. You're a bit out of context
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Nah, he meant a remake of the game, NOT a sequel. You're a bit out of context
A movie based off a video game is not considered a remake of the game. In movie terms a remake refers to one thing and one thing only:
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Tony was simply pointing out Bass' mistake.

And I have to agree that Wahlberg has an extremely limited range. "Meathead" really is the best term for how he presents himself in films.

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A movie based off a video game is not considered a remake of the game.
Read up! What else fits considering to what has been recently discussed?

Well, the game is pretty straight forth. It's about a guy who ends up HATING everything and everyone. There's nothing really, but. So, you essentially need someone who has mostly experience with that one side of emotion, rather then a full range of personalities, considering...

This story isn't very colorfull at all, regardless to how you decide to look at it, nor is it complicated by any means - plot wise.
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I cited that scene as I knew it would be recognizable and to show that he's capable of a full range of emotion, which Max demonstrates in the game. Mark Wahlberg has done anything but that. You really need to watch more of Nathan Fillion's work then compare to it Wahlberg's which are as follows:

Rennassiance Man - meathead soldier
Fear - insane meathead boyfriend
Boogie Nights - meathead wannabe pornstar
Three Kings - see Rennassiance Man
The Perfect Storm - meathead fisherman
Planet of the Apes - meathead astronaut
Rock Star - meathead wannabe rockstar
The Italian Job - meathead criminal with a pinchant for thievery
Invincible - meathead wannabe football player
The Departed - meathead cop with south boston accent

Yeah, he would be great as Max Payne...

That was honestly the stupidest thing I have read in a while. Thanks. Did Mark **** in your birthday cake or something? You really seem to dislike him.
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Yeah, I wouldn't really agree with the 'meathead' characterization. He may not be the best actor out there and he does play a lot of similar characters, but he's FAR from terrible.
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I havent played Max Payne in about Six or Seven years , but when i watched The Punisher it kind of gave me the feeling of max Payne. Does anyone think that Thomas Jane (guy who played The Punisher) would be a good fit for this movie?
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